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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is also going to affect Linux distros, many are moving to x86-64-v2 or even v3. That comes with the same requirements this Win11 build is going to enforce.

There's plenty of life left in some of the later hardware not on the official Win11 support list, but hardware old enough to be excluded by this build is really overdue for retirement and/or being considered retrocomputing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Many distro seem to go with „one package v3/v2, one for earlier pc“ and make package manager install correct one. So no „cant use on old hardware“ impact.

Also linux runs on 30+ year old hardware, not gonna change that now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Considering Debian still ships 32bit, this likely won’t affect my distro of choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense, but remember that security patches are backported to old kernels for quite a long time. Therefore, using an LTS release of Linux should extend a computer's life longer than Windows.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What in the world are yall running machines this old for? Literally a $50 modern computer would be an improvement, and would likely more than quarter the energy requirement.

Just because you can still run 20 year old hardware, doesn’t mean you should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I’m not running anything old, just kinda trolling a bit and being an annoyance about Linux.

[–] SheeEttin 1 points 8 months ago

Developing countries, for one.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hahahajahahajha

OK.

Show me tables in any open competitor to excel.

Show me OneNote/Sharepoint

Show me SCOM.

Show me file compatibility that doesn't wack your files, so you can trust you're seeing what the author intended.

Show me Publisher, any kind of CAD.

Which shell are you using?

I can go on for days why the "switch to Linux" mantra is simplistic and naive, at best.

Linux has its place, but I'm not dealing with supporting users with it as a desktop OS. I don't even use it myself (other than to tinker), because I don't have time to play fuck-fuck with borked files from one system to another. My "get work done" machines run Windows, especially because I work with other people, and I need to ensure any documents I send to them appear as intended.

There's a reason Windows is the defacto standard, and it's the standardized UI (and not by accident, if you read the MS research from the 80's). Add to that support for systems management since the early 90's, with SMS, Exchange/DC (a directory service) that all works natively with the OS since Win2k.

Linux as the base for a hypervisor? Fantastic. As a host for docker? Great! As a base OS for lightweight, dedicated-purpose devices (RPi, consumer routers, hell, commercial routers! IoT)? Perfect!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

To be fair, your arguments basically boil down to "show me equivalent Linux support for Microsoft products"

You could make all the same arguments and conclude Macs are less suitable for doing work than windows, yet there are tons of professionals using MacBooks who get by just fine. If you don't need to be fully ingrained in the Microsoft ecosystem you don't NEED to be on windows.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Switch to Linux, lol.