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Should programming.dev defederate from Meta if they implement ActivityPub? (self.meta)
submitted 1 year ago by starman to c/meta
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I'm not suggesting anything, just want to know what do you think.

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[–] astral_avocado 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well just look at what happened with XMPP and google: https://lemmy.world/comment/906346

And even if we don't defederate, I doubt anyone in threads will notice us local instance users and contribute at all to our growth. There are 30 million+ of them backed by Instagram and like what, 10k of us? They just have too much weight to throw around.

Hell I'm not even convinced reddit is going to die and Lemmy is going to continue to grow. Just look at their front page. Absolute nonsensical drivel still gets several thousands of upvotes and hundreds of comments, while any Lemmy instance is lucky to get 100 upvotes and 10 comments on a popular post

[–] o_o 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've read that XMPP article before, but it doesn't convince me.

Yes, Meta may "kill" the fediverse. That's a risk. But either we take that risk, or we "kill" the fediverse ourselves by defederating. That's my opinion.

EDIT: Besides, defederating just hands them more users. Wouldn't you rather keep the users, and allow them to see Meta content? Maybe even attract some Meta users here by inviting them? The launch of a Meta competitor is what's causing the risk to the fediverse. Federating with them is how we can mitigate that risk.

[–] astral_avocado 2 points 1 year ago

I read your edit, you make very good points there and here. We really should leave the power in the hands of users/sub/community mods to decide what they want, rather than instance owners acting like sub mods and making blanket decisions for all their users. That's the reddit model.

I assume filtering requirements requires changes to the Lemmy code base, which if they don't already exist is surprising.