Technology

69346 readers

4707 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related news or articles.
Be excellent to each other!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

796

Mastodon's official stance on Threads (blog.joinmastodon.org)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

274 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why are people mad at this? Being able to communicate with Threads users from mastodon servers, is good? Right?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Read this and you'll see why people are very skeptical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Still not convinced. If Mastodon or ActivityPub dies we'll have Bluesky and AT. Not worried. Good to have options.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I know we all dream of having all our friends and family on the Fediverse so we can avoid proprietary networks completely. But the Fediverse is not looking for market dominance or profit. The Fediverse is not looking for growth. It is offering a place for freedom. People joining the Fediverse are those looking for freedom. If people are not ready or are not looking for freedom, that’s fine. They have the right to stay on proprietary platforms. We should not force them into the Fediverse. We should not try to include as many people as we can at all cost. We should be honest and ensure people join the Fediverse because they share some of the values behind it.

This is incredibly naive. Mastodon/ActivityPub is much more popular than XMPP was lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are there numbers to back this up? I remember Pidgin being a contender to replace AIM for a time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

XMPP had nearly 10 million users in 2003: https://web.archive.org/web/20071103080257/http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/press/2003-09-22.shtml)) Activitypub has about 12 million users now: https://fediverse.observer/stats

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks.

So not too dissimilar in terms of total numbers of users... however considering the growth of the whole internet's user base...

760 million total worldwide internet users in 2003, vs 4.7 billion today.

Based on these sources, then, 1.3% of all internet users were using XMPP in 2003, and 0.26% of all internet users in the fediverse in 2023. As a proportion of all users, that makes XMPP roughly 5x more popular back then than ActivityPub is now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh I fucking member Pidgin.

Remember Trillium? Xbox Connect?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think there is a risk that Threads will be massive, and so people will think that the way to get on Mastodon is Threads, and eventually that Threads is Mastodon. C/f Google Groups and Usenet.