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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

First of all, none of those questions except the first ask why they believe, and I've never heard a person of faith answer that way.

If you enter into a conversation with the intent of attacking, you shouldn't be surprised you don't get good answers.

Everyone believes in something that they can't objectively prove, even if it's just the love of their family. It gives our lives meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well you should meet more people of faith.

But sure, tell me what they give you as reasons? I'd love to hear their proof that won't be some version of faith or the Bible says.

Let's hear it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You are confusing reasons with proof. Most believe because they choose to. Because believing in God gives them meaning and purpose, and a drive to be better, to do better. And because they have had personal experiences that lead them towards belief.

The proof for them is in the effects that faith has had on them. "By their fruits" and all that. Not far different to the "proofs" of dark matter.

Though it's very ironic that you stereotype people of faith, and think I'm the one who needs to meet more of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alright, so I was right you have nothing other than "faith".

I am asking you to provide any evidence for God that I can independently verify.

Faith or how things make you feel are irrelevant. There are people who believe in Goku and like how it makes them feel when they are shooting Kamehamehas... That doesn't make it real.

You jumped into this conversation train unprepared. I've been arguing, reading, discussing and debating religion for decades. I've seen it all. God has been shrinking for the past 2000 years.

I'm not even going to touch your dark matter comment because you are also incredibly ignorant on that subject given that you have referenced it in this context.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I never tried to prove God to you. Trying to prove the existence of God is a foolish undertaking. I, quite frankly, don't care what you believe. I've only tried to point out to you that people have plenty of reasons to believe in God that science can't provide.

You making ignorant ad hominem attacks doesn't make your bigotry any less transparent. It's only a comment on you that you've ostensibly spent so much time discussing things that are close to people's hearts without developing a shred of empathy or understanding.

You don't get to force me into the discussion you want to have by trying to bully me. Your opinion isn't going to bait me. I'm comfortable with having made the point I wanted to make.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough, so you also are unable to provide any reason. You seem to think that getting angry and insulting me will somehow magically count as having made a point on the original topic.

No worries, I didn't expect you to be able to provide anything, because better people than you have tried and failed over the last 2 millenia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Were did they "insult" you?