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why are left leaning groups still using reddit? (linux.community)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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the most egregious example I can think of is antiwork in reddit. Posters there love to rant against companies, but they also give good advice regarding laws in different states and is a good source to deal with micromanagers and toxic workplaces.

But it's like they simply don't think that reddit is making money with every post they write. It's like they're working for the enemy they so much despise, a large corporation.

It baffles me that people keep posting there. Is the fediverse alternative really that bad?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Specifically for antiwork:

Because they are either generally not very well informed or politically well versed and just know that work sucks,

Or they do not have very much free time to follow meta news about reddit and are unaware of what is going on,

Or they just have not heard of lemmy yet,

Or they have had some kind of technical trouble trying to sign up for or use lemmy in the way they would want to,

Or they are not very not very tech savvy and do not understand the FOSS benefits to a discussion board or why or how thats relevant to capitalism,

Or they are basically hypocrites who prefer an echo chamber that is comfortable to a somewhat less echo chambery option and are really just into the whole scene superficially and do not really actually care for having non contradictory and inconsistent views + personal actions/behaviors.

Lots of them probably fall into different categories and many probably fall into more than one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

antiwork

they do not have very much free time

Doubt

they are not very tech savvy

Pretty sure they are terminally online

they are basically hypocrites who prefer an echo chamber that is comfortable to a somewhat less echo chambery option and are really just into the whole scene superficially and do not really actually care for having non contradictory and inconsistent views + personal actions/behaviors

Bingo!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I would just like to point out that being terminally online has almost nothing at all to do with being technically savvy.

Huge numbers of people who are terminally online are really only adept at using tech at a surface level, and often confuse this /skill/ for things like knowing how back end programming works, understanding what software development entails, etc.

Actually technically competent people go to great, astounding lengths to make decent software very easy to use for the average person. UI/UX, front end devs, back end devs, database management, and I would say testing paradigms for possible bugs, but the industry seems to have largely abandoned giving a shit about that.

Even here on lemmy I often find myself in discussions which turn into arguments which turn into me finally realizing that the person I am talking to has absolutely ludicrous ideas about tech, the tech industry or a specific software.

Such people say and truly believe in obviously nonsensical things, or approach topics from a standpoint that makes it obvious they are really just power users of a particular kind of software, and have developed into basically superficially convincing fanboys or fangirls for it.

They reveal that they only have knowledge from a bit of experimentation and mostly just following a whole bunch of uninformed discussion about some new tech buzz word, and lack understanding of the important basic concepts, or actually relevant dynamics at play, which they likely would /not/ believe if they had ever actually worked in the tech industry, or developed their own software, or contributed usefully to some open source project.

A whole key thing about the tech industry is that it is dominated by reverence for impressive sounding tech buzzwords that promise some new and revolutionary feature, when in reality such things are nearly always minor, iterative improvements on something that came before.

A high number of people are easily bamboozled by such things.

Basically... you are not immune to propaganda?

Then tech world has: You are not immune to marketing.

A great example is the current craze over 'AI' generated content.

OpenAI, Stable Diffusion, these kinds of things?

None of them are capable of the vast majority of the kinds of processes that describe intelligence, but people will argue vehemently that they do, because they are not tech savvy, do not know anything about how the underlying tech actually works or what its capable of, or even what the word intelligence means.

It can do cool and neat things, and its branded or marketed as AI, so it is!

But, its not.