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Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox's relevance should be spiking right now due to Google's shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

Any alternative views out there?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I only use FF in Linux, I tried on Android but it's somewhat bad 😔

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Opposite of my experience, FF + uBlock Origin made browsing the web on my phone enjoyable because the filtering of ads makes page layouts readable.

[–] vvv 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use Firefox on all my devices and couldn't be happier with it. I especially love how sync works: there's options to both pull tabs from other devices, and push to them. Quite frequently I'd be just browsing on my phone and send a tab over to my laptop to deal with/read/act on when I'm sitting down at a bigger screen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Same! I believe that others struggle with it but I can't wrap my head around why their experience is so different from my own.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (7 children)

What's bad about it? It's the only way to use an ad blocker on mobile

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The url bar is in the bottom of the screen in stead of in the top.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

You can move it to the top in the settings though..? They moved it to the bottom by default because most people have their thumbs close to the bottom of the screen, so they don't need to reach all the way to the top to get to the URL bar or change tabs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just checked in my own, you can change the toolbar to the top of the screen in the "Customize" page of the settings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah i know. That's just the worst thing I could think of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That drove me nuts... You can fix it through, I did it immediately when they made the change

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Same here .... there is more than enough content on the internet as a whole .... if I run into a site that gives me a hard time to see or read any of their content, I just turn it off, close the tab and restart my search or go somewhere else. I'm not wasting my time to accommodate a dumb website that doesn't want to easily show me something I can see elsewhere .... and if I can't see it elsewhere, then more than likely, it wasn't worth seeing anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I've also had problems with Firefox on mobile. For some reason it's just very heavy on my phone, slower than chromium and has frozen android twice. I go back to it every now and then to see if it's changed but until then there are many browsers that support ad blockers. Kiwi works great for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, but it's buggy, it often freezes, it also consumes ~5% battery per hour, even if I kill FF before going to bed, the next morning it took like 40% of the battery in 8h night.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wrong. Vivaldi and Brave have adblockers, without even taking into account AdGuard, Blockade and the likes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

vivaldi also has an adblocker on android

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Working just fine for me...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I've found the reason it's not great on mobile is because even if you tell your android phone to use Firefox as default it simply ignores it and uses chrome anyways

Edit: I was able to get it to work properly as my default browser but I had to disable chrome in the app settings. Now it's great

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Just fully remove chrome. I do not even have chrome on my phone. Firefox works fine on mobile. Have no idea why people think it does not.

[–] vvv 6 points 11 months ago

You can disable chrome in it's app settings!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Disable chrome. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

What phone do you use that you experience this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

be sure to actually launch firefox and don't use the google 'app' either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Can't confirm. My default browser and web view are Firefox on both Sony and Samsung devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Also bad on iOS. I use FF on my Linux laptop, but I use Safari on my phone because FF doesn’t have many features. I understand this is the fault of the iOS ecosystem, not FF, I am merely presenting the reality of the situation because this further skews data.