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Your thoughts on Visual Basic .NET? (social.fossware.space)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/programming

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Hey, community.

This one might probably trigger some of you. But just a question that comes out of the blue: What are your thoughts on it?

I first learned programming back in the day with Visual Basic 2008. Nowadays, I can program with C#, Java, PHP and some other languages rather well (I'm no professional, though), but I often come back to Visual Basic, because I'm just so used to it. Even though it's not that often, because I'm a Linux user.

But let's say I need a small program for Windows real quick? VB.NET is gonna be my choice. Right now, I'm implementing a board game server + client for the game of go (also called baduk or wei'qi) and I'm making really good progress.

I personally think that people should just use what they want to use. I don't get the hate for PHP and some other languages and I think this gate-keeping and god complex some developers have is really annoying. Makes me want to use VB.NET even harder.

I also don't like to jump on board with every new and upcoming programming language or library, just to be cool.

I'd also like to emphasize that I'm not creating software for a living right now. I do have a small company for a little bit of freelance work, but that's just money on the side that comes in by creating really small projects.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

May I just ask how VB.NET code isn't maintainable? Not attacking you here, just out of curiosity. My board game server and client together amount to multiple thousand lines of code, as they're very feature rich and at the moment, it's not really hard for me to maintain things. It's not public yet, though. Still active development phase.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm currently maintaining a multi million line VB.NET code base, the foundations of which were hastily laid down by young and inexperienced devs realizing a business opportunity in the early 2000s. Lots of these out there in the enterprise world from what I hear and I think this is where there the language gets its reputation from. Sure, at its best it's just C# with words in place of curly braces, but that's only the case with well disciplined programmers (and even then, why not just use C#?). Option Strict is, well, just an option, and even the infamous On Error Resume Next is still usable in VB.NET to this day afaik. A lot more room for shooting yourself (or the next person reading your code) in the foot if you don't know what to look out for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was mostly thinking about PHP with that comment. Which has some serious issues with how modules from other files are included and general structure. It's possible to write well organized PHP projects but it takes discipline, it doesn't happen organically, and its really hard to fix once the project has grown significantly.

I haven't used VB since VB.NET 2003 so I hesitate to speak on that directly. Professionally I work across multiple OS's and architectures so all .NET languages are kinda no-go's. That's where C++ really shines.

[–] coloredgrayscale 4 points 1 year ago

It’s possible to write well organized PHP projects but it takes discipline, it doesn’t happen organically, and its really hard to fix once the project has grown significantly.

That applies to most languages, that you can write an awful unmaintainable mess. Especially when the project started by someone with little experience, or no knowledge about suitable design patterns.

Professionally I work across multiple OS’s and architectures so all .NET languages are kinda no-go’s. That’s where C++ really shines.

How about Java?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Professionally I work across multiple OS’s and architectures so all .NET languages are kinda no-go’s

.NET has had support for Linux, Mac and ARM for a while now.