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Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.

Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet & Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.

Edit: It's not a nostalgia thing. The quality of the PS2 platformers was actually better. Even ones I discovered recently that exist on PS2 or that I hadn't played before. If I compare them side by side with modern 3D platformers, they look like s*** compared to the PS2 ones. And case in point, there are literally no open world 3rd person shooter-3D platformers with detailed worlds/graphics outside of PS2 (that I know of) and those are the kinds of 3D platformers I enjoy most... give me an example to prove me wrong. Ok technically I know of a few examples which meet some but not all of this criteria (only because I've looked far and wide for them) but they're very basic and nowhere near as intricate as these games.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This seems like an appeal to nostalgia to me... they're old games, and therefore I must simply be blinded by nostalgia rather than the possibility that those older games might have actually been better in certain measurable ways...?๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

An appeal to nostalgia is a claim that more or less boils down to "things were better in the past."

The NES era has a special place in my heart because those were basically the first games I played and those stick with you. But... I am not about to claim that modern equivalents aren't as good. And I don't feel the need to prove otherwise because I know that it isn't their objective quality or lack thereof that made them special to me. So the question is why is it so important to you that you can "prove" the PS2 era 3d platformers were objectively superior? Are you going to suddenly flip a switch in your head that changes your opinion of them if someone manages to "prove" otherwise?

AND you have to keep in mind that you are more likely to remember good games and forget mediocre ones. There is a bias toward older games being thought of as being better because most of the garbage ended up being lost to time. Today's stinkers are still fresh on everyones' mind.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

noooo its just nostalgia!! games weren't better, they are better nowww!!!

Games in general have gotten worse, the quality only exists in the indie space nowadays. But there's 1000s of them, so it's not easy to find the gems. As for 3PP platformers... I guess the genre isn't all that appealing to developers. Maybe there will be a new one when someone has an idea for a new fresh take on it. Great games are made from great ideas and passion, rather than them being made to fill a gap in the market.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.

Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.

OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.

How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?