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What do you think would finally be their, "Enough, we gotta say something!" situation?

Edit:
Put another way, what might serve as a cosmic icebreaker?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If I were trying to get quiet aliens to communicate, I would try to get earthlings to clean up their own mess. I can't imagine an advanced civilization wanting to bother with the sad tragedy of humanity's self-destruction. There isn't a day where some random human isn't killing another, and there's usually some government that has organized some mass-kill army operation against another country -- or, worse, it's own people. Even omitting the bloodthirsty, power-hungry, greedy, and liars, the general population can't get together to work for the common good.

Maybe we could start by fixing the climate catastrophe, getting the trash out of the ocean, and then getting food and housing to everyone. If I was an alien that'd been avoiding Earth, that's the sort of thing that would get my attention.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

There's also the problem that an advanced civilization will seemingly always ruin a less advanced one with contact.

They might be staying away simply because they're isn't a solution to that issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@memfree this. A genocidal, ecocidal planet surrounded by space junk seems like an incredibly unappealing thing to contact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Personally I think the idea that sapient aliens are likely to be better than us is pretentious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny how you doomers somehow always expect that other advanced civilisations are somehow better in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Genuine question: do you think most intelligent life outside of Earth, of existent, is equal to or less advanced than Earth? Or at the same level in issues?

Because in that case, you'd become the doomer, cuz that's depressing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is the perfect premises for a Colonial Invasion by a "superioristic" neighbor. Like the Belgians bringing Civilization to Congo, or France shining the lights of the Republic to North Africa (and S-E Asia). Or the Spanish, saving South America through Religion.

Please, Lizards Overlords, make haste; I have a feeling it is a matter of emergency right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, only the "enlightenment" comes at the price of getting your hands chopped of if you produce insufficient precious materials. No thanks.