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Pretty much the title. I've been watching more realistic super hero shows like The Boys and Invincible. The reoccurring themes is that with great power comes great immorality.

I think it's easy for us normies to respect other people and their property because there are clear consequences for violating social norms. But what would the average person do if they had super powers?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I think someone else in this thread said it best. The more power you have the more temptation there is to fulfill your whims. Why do you think billionaires live the way that they do?

At least, that's how I see human nature. I made this post because I think there's room for reasonable debate.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think billionaires become billionaires? They were already messed up before the money and had no morals to stop them from doing immoral things to get it.

If I knew I'd never be caught, I'd hope I would do things that billionaire brown-nosers think is immoral. But it's things I believe are moral. Like reclaiming stolen wealth from billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Or they were given money and have zero qualms or repercussions while exploiting it or exploiting people

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

It’s easy to be cynical about human nature when the extreme negatives are so amplified and given so much publicity. You have to remember the vast majority of people do still possess empathy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reasonable debate about what? That most people would be evil if they had the power because the people who have power are often evil? That inference does not follow. That’s not a logical claim, it’s a self report at worst and a fallacy at best.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not quite what I'm saying. It goes the other way around: people are morally questionable by nature and this comes out when people have the chance to act without facing consequences.

So the debate essentially boils down to whether you think people are essentially good/bad at heart. That's something people can reasonably disagree on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

people are morally questionable by nature

You keep making sweeping statements about all of humanity.

Please speak for yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your evidence for the claim that people are evil by nature is: billionaires are often evil and you would make immoral choices if you could stop time. That’s just a self report and a logical fallacy smashed together

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You really would prefer to strawman instead of seeing where reasonable people could disagree huh. Maybe the point is too philosophical for your taste.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You’re not reasonably debating if you start from an illogical premise.

If you don’t like debate don’t come complaining about being debated.

It’s also a bit weird you’re whining about the straw man that you brought up in the first place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

If OP had super powers, your life might be in danger right now for debating the incorrect position or way or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah but think about it: you could check someone's ass fully instead of stealing glances, put random dirt smudges on people's faces.. it's hard to resist such a power.