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Hey Guys, Microsoft is cool now, they really care for Open Source now, they changed.
How do people always forget, how often they get fucked by that company in the last 20 years, that they think anything changed? They still abuse their monopoly, they still buy up the work of others and they still will then dilute it down for their bottom line and restrict it to force you to use a login to harvest data on your profile (see also Windows).
Everyone who said it's cool that MS bought Github, because they are now Pro-Open-Source: Can we please have a round table every 2 years and talk. Because I think you guys are victims of the Stockholm syndrome and do not even notice.
Yeah, fuck Microsoft. They haven't changed at all.
For example I remember when they held monopoly in a browser market and purposely broke their sites for other browsers.
Now the IE is gone, they have Chrome based Edge and are doing it again, if for example you try to use their office and make Teams call in Firefox it will refuse saying you should use Edge or Chrome. I'm guessing they are now trying again to claim they support another browser in case of antitrust, but Edge and Chrome is essentially the same thing. They just want to kill Firefox.
GitHub changed that a few months before acquisitions talks even started lol
Apparently, this change was in 2016 - before MS bought them. However, I agree with your point. But the proof of that isn't in restricting search to logged in users. It's in how they ripped off FOSS code (esp GPL code) for training copilot. They did something that fundamentally damaged the roots of FOSS activity.
FYI, there is no forcing here. Heavy suggestions, but no forcing. I've never used a MS or Hotmail account to log into Windows 10 or 11.
On new installs it does force you. I had to do it today (Windows 10). There are workaround such as attempting to log into a banned account, or other weird hacks involving disconnecting the internet and know the right combinations of hidden menus to navigate.
It shouldn't have to be that way is the point. I shouldn't have to take all these steps to opt out of getting a Microsoft account. Just like I shouldn't have to click 3-5 times to deny cookies.
It should be as simple as it used to be: Do you want to log in with your Microsoft account?
User clicks "No thanks. I'll log in locally."
I agree it's absolutely stupid, nothing I said was in support of it, I was just pointing out it wasn't difficult to get around
If some has to know to unplug the internet, try to sign up, and force an error to bypass sign up...
It is forcing.