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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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1. Server Main Rules

The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.

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No mocking, demeaning, flamebaiting, purposeful antagonizing, trolling, hateful language, false accusation or allegation, or backseat moderating is allowed. Don’t resort to ad hominem attacks against another user or insult other people, examples of violations would be going after the person rather than the stance they take.

If we feel the comment is uncalled for we will remove it. Stay civil and there won’t be problems.

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If the title of the post isn’t an original title of the article then the first thing in the body of the post should be an original title written in this format “Original title: {title here}”.

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Staff can take disciplinary action on offenses not listed in the rules when a community member's actions or general conduct creates a negative experience for another player and/or the community.

It is impossible to list every example or variation of the rules. It is also impossible to word everything perfectly. Players are expected to understand the intent of the rules and not attempt to "toe the line" or use loopholes to get around the intent of the rule.


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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There's no such thing as unskilled labor. I guarantee you that dude is better than you are at packing boxes. That's known as "skill"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (8 children)

There is definitely such a thing as jobs that take lots of book learning and tests to get, and jobs anyone can get by applying for them. This semantic fight of "No such thing as unskilled labor" is just going to make people call it something new and politically correct, but it won't change reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It's not semantics, it's just refusing to use an inaccurate name. Just because anyone can get a job doesn't mean anyone can excel at it. Why are you suggesting we should all consent to the lie that unskilled labor exists?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Which is why everyone is an engineer these days. Guy with a mop? Sanitation engineer. Guy who sells stuff all day? Sales engineer. Help desk? No, systems engineer.

Title inflation isnt a big deal but it is silly.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Skilled labor is something that you need outside training in order to do.

When someone is an 'unskilled worker,' it means they're only eligible for positions that train them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nevertheless, a worker who has been trained is a worker who has become skilled.

A worker who has been trained on a job site is worker who has become skilled in work at the job site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

When one has spent half a day learning to pack boxes, then a week learning to do it quick enough, I'll grant they have acquired a skill. Probably not a transferable skill, but definitely a skill

It's still unskilled work

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Name one thing that doesn't require outside skill. Literally nothing you know in your life you learned on your own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (42 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong, just what people intend to mean when they say unskilled labor.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Packing boxes, unless you mean "outside training" to include walking and talking

It's unskilled in terms that any moderately competent person can do the job and become proficient at it quickly

My skilled job required tertiary education, plus about two years on the job for a person to become good at it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

If you can master it in a week it isn't a skill. You are redefining the word to make it so broad it is useless to make some ideological point. Also given what I see with Amazon boxes I doubt they can in fact pack better than I can.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That would require lasting a week at Amazon. Anyone who does that is indisputably skilled.

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