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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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This server is no longer working, and we had to move.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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1. Server Main Rules

The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.

4. Educate don’t attack

No mocking, demeaning, flamebaiting, purposeful antagonizing, trolling, hateful language, false accusation or allegation, or backseat moderating is allowed. Don’t resort to ad hominem attacks against another user or insult other people, examples of violations would be going after the person rather than the stance they take.

If we feel the comment is uncalled for we will remove it. Stay civil and there won’t be problems.

5. No Advertising

Under no circumstance are you allowed to promote or advertise any product or service

6. No factually misleading informationContent that makes claims or implications that can be proven false or misleading will be removed.

7. Headlines

If the title of the post isn’t an original title of the article then the first thing in the body of the post should be an original title written in this format “Original title: {title here}”.

8. Staff Discretion

Staff can take disciplinary action on offenses not listed in the rules when a community member's actions or general conduct creates a negative experience for another player and/or the community.

It is impossible to list every example or variation of the rules. It is also impossible to word everything perfectly. Players are expected to understand the intent of the rules and not attempt to "toe the line" or use loopholes to get around the intent of the rule.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you can master it in a week it isn't a skill. You are redefining the word to make it so broad it is useless to make some ideological point. Also given what I see with Amazon boxes I doubt they can in fact pack better than I can.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That would require lasting a week at Amazon. Anyone who does that is indisputably skilled.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You are describing someone acquiring skills over the course of a week.

An assessment as you have given would depend on, as a basis, the general skills already prevalent within a target population.

Also, it is questionable that someone would not continue to develop skill through practicing a task longer than a week.

Your invocation of a judgment is essentially vacuous, as you have done with the word "master".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jesus who are you trying to impress talking like that? Putting shit in a box is not skilled labor in the sense being a plumber or an accountant is. Just because I can't define the line exactly does not mean there is no line and pointing out that my reasoning isn't perfect doesn't make your reasoning correct.

It is unskilled labor because words are defined by consensus.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The line is imaginary, and division by any line is not particularly natural or useful.

What consensus are you imagining? I cannot recall being asked to offer an opinion for any consensus.

Who participated in constructing the consensus? What processes are generally available to challenge the entrenched consensus, or to direct the development of a new consensus?

Which groups have supported such a consensus more strongly than others?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit lines don't matter. You clearly act like it does. Do you eat anything randomly or do you have standards of hygiene and taste and nutrition?

Yeah you weren't consulted. Your whims don't outrule billions of people who refuse to be ordered to believe that 2 + 2 = 5.

Still goalposting moving, which is also unskilled labor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You asserted a consensus had been formed.

Who participated in forming the consensus?

Did you participate? Are you benefiting from such a consensus? Would you be harmed by its being replaced?

Why is your tone so protective and forceful?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Look at the votes on this comment tree. Clearly there is a consensus, clearly Amazon packers are on the "unskilled" side of the line