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[–] lowleveldata 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because Microsoft will eat your ass in your sleep

[–] lysdexic 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because Microsoft will eat your ass in your sleep

So Microsoft has access to Firefox's source code. So what? Isn't the point of a FLOSS project that your source code should be made available to everyone?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mozilla allegedly stands for a bunch of stuff that is be definition incompatible with hosting code on GitHub as it is. I bet a lot of people were expecting a lot more from them and instead got this move. Well... I guess this is like unique browser ID that each installation has or the fact that it contacts a 3rd party analytics company no matter your settings - people start by complaining and eventually even say it is right. lol so much for privacy and whatnot.

[–] lysdexic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mozilla allegedly stands for a bunch of stuff that is be definition incompatible with hosting code on GitHub as it is.

Your statement is fundamentally wrong on many levels, including the fact that it goes against the fundamental premise of FLOSS which is that "the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software."

I bet a lot of people were expecting a lot more from them (...)

You only speak for yourself. You do not have a mandate to speak on behalf of anyone, including Firefox users such as myself. Keep your personal opinions as personal. You have the right to have a personal opinion, but you do not have the right to pass them off as anyone else's.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your statement is fundamentally wrong on many levels, including the fact that it goes against the fundamental premise of FLOSS which is tha

What is it in my statement that goes against that? Nothing. Just read Mozilla's Manifesto and then tell me how hosting code on GitHub doesn't go against Principle 2, 3, 4 and 7. Mozzila's missing is "to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all" and by pushing their code on Github they're making it more popular, essentially perpetuating Microsoft's dominant market position that is very likely to result in even more abuse, more ecosystems and less open solutions in the future. There's no way to justify a company with Mozilla's resources doing this.

[–] lysdexic 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing. Just read Mozilla’s Manifesto

Your trolling skills are subpar but given this is a lazy weekend I guess I'll bite just for the entertaining value.

Let's go through "Principle 2, 3, 4 and 7", shall we?

Principle 2 The internet is a global public resource that must remain open and accessible.

Making source code available through GitHub is a realization of Principle 2. You got it exactly backwards.

Principle 3 The internet must enrich the lives of individual human beings.

I don't even know what could possess you to believe that making a software project available through GitHub would jeopardize this. Anyway.

Principle 7 Free and open source software promotes the development of the internet as a public resource.

That's what making FLOSS projects available to the public through GitHub does. GitHub, by providing managed hosting to Mozilla to host Firefox's project tree and making it available to the public, is unquestionably meeting this goal, both in its letter and its spirit.

You need to put some effort into finding things to be outraged about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they were making a joke

[–] lysdexic 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they were making a joke

The missing /s, coupled with some absurd comments on this thread, make it hard to tell apart the jokes from the activists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair, but with that said, I'm gonna eat your ass

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago