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I think when people say to but high quality items, they mean to spend what they’re worth. Getting the most expensive thing doesn’t really guarantee a quality item, but cheaping out makes it much more likely that you’ll end up with something lackluster. Plus, something like sleep can be fairly complicated and is connected to your habits, what you’ve eaten, or schedule, etc., so expecting a single change (pillow) to make a huge difference may not be realistic.
You're usually fine using a cheap item. If you use it enough to break it, then you need a quality item.
Ah the old Harbor Freight rule
Obligatory I’ve been using the same $20 impact socket set professionally for 20 years and its fine
Hmm. Kinda rhymes with "garbage crate". Horrible store. I'm never going back.
I've always been partial to "hazard fraught"
I disagree with it being garbage though. It's true, most of their merchandise isn't the highest quality, but when you need a tool for just one project that you don't already own and can't seem to borrow from anyone it's a great place to get that tool on the cheap, and for some oddball tools there's may be no convenient place to track them down.
I was recently working on a small project I needed a router for. In this case I was able to borrow a router from a friend but he only had one bit for it and it wasn't one I needed. If you haven't priced out router bits recently, they tend to go for like $20-30 a piece from the usual big retailers.
I was able to get a set of 15 bits from harbor freight for about $30-40 and they did exactly what I needed them to.
I'm sure they probably won't last as long as the good bits, but for how often I need a router these will probably last me the rest of my life.
Needed a rivnut tool for a different project a few months ago, and nowhere else around me carries them, beat waiting a couple days for one from Amazon.
Also have a bike rack from them that's doing the job just fine, and a handful of little weird tools for various hobbies.
I wouldn't trust them for anything my life or livelihood depends on, but for little incidental things I can't borrow or find anywhere else they do just fine.
Both of the tools I tried from there failed hard and fast. The first was a rotary tool. I ended up keeping the plastic and using a motor from a printer instead until I bought my Foredom.
The second was a vibratory tumbler. After running it for a few hours, I walked into my garage to find it filled with smoke and the acrid smell of burning electrical equipment.
I took it back to the store for a refund and the manager threatened me, saying that he wouldn't let me make any more returns after bringing back an obviously defective piece of garbage.
Glad you had a better experience, but that place is definitely not for me.
Hand tools are fine 99%. Cutting tools--the part that actually does the cutting--are usually fine. Power tools are very hit or miss. Like, I would definitely not buy any cordless or corded tools there. Air tools are generally okay, but don't work as well as other, more expensive air tool brands. OTOH, I've used a Harbor Freight flooring stapler that failed in under a day of use, while the Husky branded stapler did just fine for a few years. Impact sockets are good, although they're limited on sizes (I don't think that they have anything bigger than 22mm). I've been using a Harbor Freight floor jack and jack stands for a few years now without issue.
I concur with that general rule!
You also get diminishing returns.
If you spend £400 on a bike instead of £200, it might actually be nearly twice as good, but spending £2000 doesn't mean it will be ten times as good, when you're in to bikes that cost £10k+ you're talking about fractions of a percent better than the one that costs many percent less.
The top of the range items are good for enthusiasts, but almost always not worth it for casual consumers.
For a $200 bike, it's never going to work the way it's intended to work. ANY bike you buy at a department store--and many that you buy at general sporting goods stores--will be garbage. In 1995, the rule of thumb was to spend at least $500 on a bike to get something that you could realistically ride every single day; that's about $1000 today.
I'm saying this as someone that worked at bike stores as a mechanic off and one over about 15 years; the cheap dept. store bikes someply can't be fixed and adjusted to work the way that their owners expect.
(PS - yes, fixies are cheap and light. No, you should not under any circumstances ride them on public streets or trails. If you do, sooner or later you will have a serious accident that will involve stitches, broken bones, possibly surgery, and probably rehab.)
I concur with you, but I'd phrase it in a different way: if your budget is $200 for a bike, you should be shopping for a used bike-shop/reputable-brand bike on Craigslist or whatever.
Also, agreed about fixies, except that switching the flip-flop hub to single-speed mode and adding brakes makes it fine.
Well, that's why I specified fixie rather than single speed. 🙂 I'm not a fan of single speeds since they're inefficient, but they're not inherently unsafe, and I'm not going to tell people that they're suicidally stupid if they ride one.
Very true for bikes in my experience. Guitars as well.
£500 - £1000 is the sweet spot for electric guitars. Anything much higher than that is the exact same guitar, just with extra bling.
Acoustic/classical guitars are a bit different and even though they still suffer diminishing returns, a higher price can be more easily justified.