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Isn't "gypsy" a racist slur?
Generally it is used that way by anyone not self identifying.
Here it is used in hyperbole that seems to me as mocking the stereotype due to context and Russia being the obvious butt of the joke.
They're the butt of a lot of jokes: everything from poor chain of command, infighting, lack of equipment, corruption, dishonesty leading to a failure to accurately asses the situation, franken vehicles, and bizarre orders like digging trenches near Chernobyl or fortifying against beach landings. My personal favorite is a Ukrainian soldier talking on russian comms and telling them to just surrender. They tell him to shut up and continue communicating tactical plans. A real facepalm moment.
It's also used as the name of a sauce over where I live
Yeah, and here in the States we used to have Aunt Jemima. Didn't make it any less racist AF. 😅
To expand on why Aunt Jemima was racist for those that don't know: She was a stereotype of a servant caretaker, a caricature and not a person. Uncle Ben was the male servant version.
Both were designed to be acceptable to southerners who still think black people should be servants even if they are no longer slaves. It was intentional, not accidental.
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Mmmm. Moth juice.
Hmm. I'm unsure of the "self-identifying" part, as I've mostly heard corrections coming from Romani people themselves. Secondly, the joke seems a slippery slope toward apologist antics.
Romani are spread throughout the world and have different preferences based on how slurs are used and whether they want to cede certain terms to racists or keep them. Some still identify as gypsy for personal reasons and should be respected for that while not using the term by default. Treat it like the word queer for LGBTQ+ folks, only use it if that is their preference.
Also, there are other nomadic people that. Romani, and the usage as a slur includes using one term for all groups instead of recognizing the diversity.
I completely agree, and thanks for clarifying!
We're on NCD so I try to make this sound like overblown russian copium. Denying what happened and the "minor damage" is part of the joke that it is "completely destroyed" because Russia lies and makes subsequent attacks just as unexpected as the first, a reference to the shock factor of Himars strikes.
I apologize for any offense.
I hear ya, and no offense taken at all!
If there was any offense, it was russian offense, so it happened but it won’t go anywhere.