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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Spoilers below (and apologies, as I can’t get the spoiler tag to work. If someone knows, let me know!).

In Portal 2, you learn the GLaDOS is actually the brain dump of Cave Johnson’s assistant, named Caroline. Cave Johnson is the one that ran the company that created the portal gun.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's still an AI, just derived from a human person.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd argue that the intelligence is still natural.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be both natural and artificial. Bananas are a perfect example. They grow in the wild, but not human-altered bananas are extinct. Hence they are natural, as they don't require humans to produce more of them, and artificial, as humans made them.

Also, if you want to get real pedantic, all human intelligence is artificial as you learn from other humans. Also, your parents made your mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We could just say a different word to distinguish them, like UI for uploaded intelligence, or anything really. Having a different word for each seems more productive than debate about which is the more accurate use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that depends on what your definition of AI is. IMO if pathfinding is AI then GLaDOS is definitely AI

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually A* is deterministic thus simply intelligently designed, but not intelligent itself. Nobody considers that AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't necessarily consider pathfinding AI, but I don't like that reasoning. If ai coded a set of rules for a units behavior, if that behavior responds to different conditions, I'd consider it AI. Even though it is purely deterministic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That would make any non-trivial piece of code AI. Like ffmpeg, for example, or a chess computer. Complicated tools, sure, but with a bit of effort you can predict how they will behave in a given circumstance. Meaning you could set a trap for the chess computer and it would walk right into it. Every single time. No learning occurs.
Until a few years ago AI was effectively synonymous with AGI, Artificial General Intelligence, which requires the software to be able to adapt to new situations and be able to solve even unknown problems with as few or fewer attempts than a human would need.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Caroline was just PART of GLaDOS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's such a stretch to say that a digital copy is artificial, especially with the given context of malfunctions and personality alteration/memory deletion (and stuff I can't quite put into words, like her existing for so long and doing testing when no other scientists are left). Even Wheatley seems more human, though stupid and ultimately just as malicious.

I mean I could've seen the story written differently (and perhaps some of it was played for laughs) but that's not what it was.

@Chais

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even though Wheatley is supposed to be the stupid one, he actually does a pretty good job learning from past mistakes that he and others have made. If only Chell didn't medle in turret production.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the Sync dev forgot about spoilers so I'm trying to figure it out now from this doc

did I figure it out?yes?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Great. Unfortunately, the spoiler button in Sync's markup bar still used the reddit style markup.

So >!this!< will look like a spoiler to you and me but not to anyone on the site or any other app/frontend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Neither does the ::: syntax work for me

on kbin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You figured it out!