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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I've refused to buy these "flagship" phones that don't have a headphone jack. The 90s kid in me will live on, damnit!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same I use wired earbuds everyday at work and I refuse to buy a phone without one

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I recently bought Bluetooth large headphones and I feel like they're a massive improvement. However, when it comes to earbuds (which I still use a lot when big ones are inconvenient), I would never buy wireless ones. I am afraid that in a lot of them, battery is not easily replaceable (while in my big ones it can be accessed by unscrewing a cover), and the small things would get lost fairly easily.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Also you have to spend a lot more for good bluetooth ear buds compared to wired. Like, you can get a pair of KZ ZSN Pros for 20 bucks or so. They sound great, have nice material quality (they got metal bits on em!), good quality cable, great sounding mic... you get the idea. To get bluetooth ear buds that sound just as good you'd probably have to spend like 80 bucks? And they'd be made of plastic and not have the mic quality anywhere near the KZs. It's just so much easier to get good audio quality with a wire.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I do have a pair of Bluetooth headphones and I use them from time to time. I tend to revert to my wired m50x pretty often just out of personal preference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have some wired headphones for when I am gaming on the computer, but anything else I use Bluetooth earbuds, and I can't imagine going back to wired ones, never getting the cable caught on things is so freeing. They also have active noise canceling and hear thru which both come in real handy on work sites.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there was a decent phone with FM radio and an IR blaster, I might pick it over a lot of other ones.

I miss having an IR blaster so much, I was always finding new uses for it. Now I've got little remotes everywhere again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Same, including an IR led is such a simple thing, why did this ever go away. Though I'm pretty sure most Chinese phones still have them, Xiaomi phones do for sure

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Basically all the phones with headphone jacks now have abysmal long-term support. Even the fair phone got rid of the headphone jack so they could sell their bullshit wireless headphones

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is why I love Sony phones.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s a lot more capability with USB-C audio though. Even entirely discounting Bluetooth, there are plenty of high quality USB-C headphones out there that blow the pants off of what you could do with a 3.5mm jack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No lol. It all gets converted to an analog signal to drive the headphones. There's no difference in fidelity between 1/8" and USB-C. It's literally the exact same signal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except you’re not limited to the phones hardware and space constraints with USB. You can put the DAC, you know the thing that does that conversion, in the headphone end now, whereas you couldn’t with 3.5mm because you can push power over USB. Meaning you have the ability to get headphones with a much better DAC, which will provide better audio quality.

It also frees up space in the phone for more battery, different radios, and other things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's a tradeoff of convenience. I want the jack because it's a universal standard that doesn't require external batteries or the right alignment of the stars for proper functionality. Quality has been fine since the dawn of the smartphone, IMO, at least for earbuds. You're still free to use a USB DAC if there's a jack!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where's our different radios and other things? They just keep adding more camera lenses, and MORE MEGAPIXELS.

Nothing innovative or useful, and now we're forced to buy more shit (adapters) to make other things we already have, work with our phones.

I'll stick with my "mid grade" phone that does all of the same things, but also connects to 3.5mm

PS. This mid grade phone also has USB C if I really wanted a custom DAC, and alternatively I can also charge and listen to things at the same time, with no extra cost

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, since Apple removed it they’ve added the mmWave antenna, the ultrawideband chip, the satellite antenna, and a thread radio.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fair point about Apple. They did also remove the home button and optimized their display further to accommodate that though.

If only it wasn't so proprietary, I could get on the apple train. Still mad about my headphones jacks though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

DACs in phones these days are totally fine these days. There really isn't any need for an external one unless you need to drive higher impedance cans. Quality-wise, they're totally fine.