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As others have stated there’s some basic things that need to be addressed first and who knows if they will. I believe Kbin is in a potential unique position to get things right and drive innovation. There’s the one dev but others have offered to help and once things are more stable and mature it will get better. I actually disagree somewhat with Mastodon, if you look at its public roadmap it’s planning on taking measures that will have a significant impact, some of them are features longtime users have fought against. There’s plenty of growth to be had and innovation. I’m so excited on the future of the Fedi
Interesting. Where can I view this roadmap?
On joinmastodon.com
Thanks
Here you go https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap
Oh wow, they gave in to the tweetheads ... mastodon is going to become a whole lot more toxic.
I don’t think so. That was their reasoning for not implementing Full-text search and Quotes yet other Fediverse platforms have had these features and I haven’t come across any reporting and or posts about these being used as tools for abuse.
Mastodon is the biggest service in the fediverse and attracts mostly people who use short-form communication (just like twitter). IIRC quotes were frowned upon and the creator of mastodon resisted their implementation for a long time because he saw it as major cause of the toxicity: talk about somebody without having them in the discussion. I agreed with that assessment, which is why I'm surprised it's being implemented now.
Probably people want the same features as on twitter and don't care what effect it will have.
What was your reasons for agreeing with that assessment? It wasn’t just used for negativity. All of these are tools and they can be misused. Having a social media account in general opens people up for harassment
I think what he said is correct:
From github quoting a blog entry.
You can read the conversation there and most of what people who are against the feature said, I agree with. It encourages bad behavior, simplifies talking about somebody "behind their back", and just copies a feature used primarily to dogpile onto people the quoter disagrees with.
I have read it and I can understand but it doesn’t encourage bad behaviour. It’s a tool, it will be used how people decide to use it. I also believe most of the concerns are disingenuous as there’s plenty of abuse that has happened and still has happened on Mastodon. Have you and those that agreed advocated for the abolishment of PM? That is significantly worse than QTs and search. That’s the primary vector of harm. What’s worse is that it’s hidden. Black users have been harassed via PMs
That's like saying a gun is just a tool. I know it's hyperbole and it's done explicitly to bring the point across that a tool isn't just always a tool.
We don't see eye to eye on this 🤷
That’s nowhere near the same and disingenuous. A gun was made to cause damage, irrespective of the reason for sad damage. Thus it’s not the same. Quotes, full text search were not designed to cause damage. That is misuse. That’s fine, we can disagree. You neglected to respond about private mention though and I think that’s telling
I don't even know what a private mention is dude. But sure, it's telling.