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The United States is already a global leader in traffic-related fatalities, with a thirty-percent jump in the last decade. That’s in contrast to every other developed country, which saw a decline.

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The electric Ford Lightning, for example, is a whopping 6,500 pounds. The Hummer EV is even heavier, clocking in at 9,000 pounds. Its battery alone weighs more than a Honda Civic. Experts have pointed out the significant safety ramifications of this transition for a while, but it’s still not clear that we’ve prepared the regulatory and policy landscape for such a transition.

Even if you don’t want a giant, extremely heavy EV, the tendency to purchase such vehicles creates an arm race for everyone interested in protecting their family on the road. That in turn causes a shift away from smaller EVs in a bid to feed the elemental materials needed for ever larger EV batteries.

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“Norway, a pioneer in EV use, is considering a weight-based tax to steer buyers away from the fattest EVs (the Norwegian government recently eliminated EV purchase incentives). France already has one on SUVs. Buyers of new diesel and gasoline vehicles must pay a tax of €10 ($14.58) a kilo (2.2 pounds) above 1.8 tons. The weight threshold is to be reduced. EVs are exempt, but as those vehicles become heavier and more popular, it seems they will get swept into the weight-based tax net.”

A smattering of localities have tried to prepare for the threat. DC, for example, has imposed a creative vehicle registration fee schedule that has heavy EV truck and SUV owners paying higher registration fees than lighter EV sedans. But it’s an outlier.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Something important to consider with regards to weight and road damage, damage is proportional to weight to the fourth power. A little extra weight means a lot more wear. This is also why we should be shipping most things by train, as trucks are absolutely annihilating the roads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and it comes up a lot when people say EVs aren't paying their fair share and should have increased registration costs. The biggest hit on road maintenance is big trucks, and it's not even close. We are all subsidizing this industry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Diesel cars are 50kg heavier than EVs in general (maybe I can find the study again) and they've increased the most since 2012 in weight gained

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus they always give as an example, that e-hummer that weighs 9,000 lbs. that just shouldn’t exist. Meanwhile most EVs are 1/3 that weight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's 9000 pounds and is faster than 90s supercars. It's complete lunacy, and I'm actually quite scared of how much more dangerous it's going to make driving.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. No one wants ro talk about a real weight tax, because if they charged trucks their proportional share, shipping costs would go through the roof.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what if we moved them onto a separate road, made of metal?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thay would be crazy, they would all be running at different intervals. You would need some system to link all the cars together, with a singular engine. An Onomotive or something like that, we can figure out the name later.