this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2023
1818 points (99.2% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
12 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

BMW Is Giving Up on Heated Seat Subscriptions Because People Hated Them::The blowback worked—but subscriptions for software-based new car features will continue, according to a BMW board member.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing that matters is voting with your wallet

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is all the other people voting the wrong way with their bigger wallets.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

That's business. Bmw isn't a cost effective brand in the first place, so anyone on a budget shouldn't complain in the first place

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly, but never discount the power of well-wielded shame

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't feel shame, the bad PR caused people to do the aforementioned voting with their wallets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The topic had moved to generalities; we were no discussing this specific case

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay and, generally, companies are not motivated by shame, they register the financial/legal/regulatory impact as a result of their misdeeds being known.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a non-nuanced take. A- properly wielded shame isn't targeted at corporations usually, it's targeted at the individual members responsible for corporations. B- corporate culture and "decorum" culture have made shame almost exclusively the domain of religion. Whatever example you're thinking of as corporate shaming, that's not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about the lost art of shame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rarely do decision makers have the latitude to make sweeping changes to corporate structure and direction based on their personal feelings. A board of directors would remove such leadership.

Give me an example of what you're talking about then, if I'm off piste.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got no examples for you. Doesn't seem enough to justify not trying to me. I'm not of the bend over and take it mentality, I'm of the do anything we can do mentality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, to clarify, my take around the realities of what effectively motivates corporate entities and their controlling directors was non-nuanced. Whereas your "be the change you want to see in the world" take, that you cannot support, is what you would consider nuanced?