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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only thing I used it for was when older versions of Notepad couldn't handle larger text files. Now it can. So, no loss to me. Notepad going away would suck, that does at least get occasional use although Notepad++ is far superior.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Notepad++ can't handle as big files for some reason. At work we have files that can reach 5-600 MB, and NP++ can't always open those, but notepad handles then with no problem.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the same problem but noticed that I was using the 32 bit version of notepad++, installed the 64 bits instead and had no problems with large files

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That might actually be something to bring up with IT...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf npp has much more functionality than regular notepad.

Just the syntax highlighting alone probably dramatically lowers the amount of text it can render.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I prefer it when it works. Highlighting plus line numbers helps a ton.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've opened 4GB files with notepad++ before. Sure, it takes several minutes (I basically have to go away and do something else, or leave it loading in the background) but it gets there, eventually.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

NP++ straight up tells us it's too big to be opened...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just upload it in the cloud and use Microsoft online word!

\s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hahahahaha, hahahaha.

Hahahahaha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With bigger files or searching in files where there's a lot of data I found sublimetext to be much more efficient (than n++)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use sublime at home, but work is pretty strict with what we can use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a npp plugin called Big Files, I haven't used it but it might be worth a look.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds backwards... I occasionally have to open log files of 1 gig or more, and notepad++ gets sluggish, but is usable, while notepad just hangs until I kill it...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Someone suggested that we might have the 32-bit version, and that that might be the problem. I have no way of checking for a few months though, since I'm on parental leave until January. Because our NP++ just says that the files are too big to be opened. Sidenote: Sometimes it can open files that are a bit bigger, and sometimes only a bit smaller... So it's not a hard limit that is the same at all times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Genuinely curious—why would someone choose to use notepad++ over something like VSCode in 2023?

I can't say I've used n++ in over a decade when I switched to sublime around 2010, moved again to VSCode about 5 years ago

[–] UlrikHD 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

VSCode uses electron so it's not exactly a lightweight text editor, way overkill if you just want to read a simple .txt. Add on the fact if you got way too many extension, it will be even heavier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's true, although from my experience is VSCode one of the very few electron apps that still start within fractions of a second, even with a handful of extensions. On my machine VSCode (with 38 extensions) is ready to use before the GNOME launch animation has finished.

That said, things are probably a bit different on machines with limited RAM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

N++ can search for a string in a directory full of files, that's what I use it for. Also helpful for showing unprintable characters like linefeeds or changing bit order mode, I'm not sure vs code can do any of that.

For writing code, though, I do use vs code

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC you can do both of those with VSCode, I think even without any extensions too!

The search sidebar has include and exclude fields for directories to search in.

For showing unprintable characters, I think it's split into two settings: one for whitespace one for control characters like null and bell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't aware of that, I'll have to check it out. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NP++ is more lightweight and has some useful stuff builtin and easier to justify to IT dept to than a full IDE 🤷

Personally I prefer pycharm and Atom for my home needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Justifying it to IT makes a lot of sense actually. Particularly if you need extensions. I'm lucky I get admin on my laptop where I work

Interesting you're using atom, actually! Is it still getting much love? I assumed development would go by the wayside once Microsoft bought GitHub a few years ago (as VSCode is almost an identical product)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's on my personal machine, I use it alongside pycharm but it's (atom) not my main IDE, I keep it because of a few things it does. I disagree vscode is the same, it's a poorer implementation of pycharm IMHO. Just my opinion though everyone is different in workspace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm interested in what differs from atom about VSCode in your opinion. ~~Wasn't VSCode a fork of atom originally?~~ edit: apparently not! When I was picking between the two about 5 years ago, they seemed almost identical to me

I'm personally not a big fan of heavy IDEs like the jetbrains products, so VSCode being lighter than pycharm (or any of the IDEA products) is a bonus to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at Atom community. Speed to load is night and day.

For me, Vscode feels like a cheaper pycharm which is my primary IDE and wouldn't change as I've tried vscode as an alt and it wasn't good enough for how I work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fair play, everyone's different, I work with another guy who swears by the jetbrains stuff, but it just seems very clunky to me every time I've tried it.

I'll have to give atom another look then, though I'd say VSCode starts in about a second on my machine, so startup time alone probably wouldn't be a reason for me to switch