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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not a bad thing. Humans really aren't good decision makers. Having a system with an incredible amount of input data will be able to draw better conclusions than a person.

Just look at cars.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Humans are good decision makers, we're just not good at paying attention for long periods of time. Which is why I think self-driving cars will eventually be better, but they aren't yet. And those are expert systems (I refuse to call them AI) trained on a well-curated and limited set of data for a limited and specific purpose. Which is an important difference over the generalized generative models. More data does not make systems, especially more unsorted data.

But here's another important difference: I can grab the wheel at any time and take over. If we are going to give these systems decision making authority there needs to be an obvious and intuitive override.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Self driving cars are already better than humans. The Waymo cars have a crash rate of 0.59/million miles driven. The national average is 2.98.

I'm betting that most of the self driving car crashes were caused by humans, too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AI is just as biased as the data that's put into them and that data originates from humans who have their own biases so humans are just going to pass their own biases onto the AI that makes the decisions

I don't think ai is a good idea

It just exists as a replacement of the human mind and with the whole population of us on earth that's a large enough number to contribute any unique ideas to contribute to humanity

Creating ai would just be making some sort of copy of us

An AI is similar to an impressionable child

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bias is a problem, but it can be ameliorated. I don't agree that because AI can be biased, you should never use it.

Creating ai would just be making some sort of copy of us

I don't know any humans who can munge a ginormous data set like an AI can.

However, reproducing human intelligence in a computer would be interesting in its own right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

However, reproducing human intelligence in a computer would be interesting in its own right.

I would not try to replicate that knowing humanity it would probably view us as a threat

I don't know any humans who can munge a ginormous data set like an AI can.

No humans cannot but we use tools made by us to do that

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you assuming there will be bias in the data, and that the AI couldn't be made to correct for it? Most of the data for systems like medical AI are basically raw data, and it's already better than humans at making an accurate diagnoses.

I'm not sure why people seem to think humans are better than a system that can parse trillions of data points in a few seconds and apply a bunch of statistical models to it almost instantly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't trust ai with medical data and neither would medical professionals since your dealong woth someone's life here to either medical professionals are going to modify the data

I'm not sure why people seem to think humans are better than a system that can parse trillions of data points in a few seconds and apply a bunch of statistical models to it almost instantly.

That's just pre-programmed pattern recognition which has been programmed by rules and data from humans