this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
674 points (95.1% liked)

Programmer Humor

19721 readers
63 users here now

Welcome to Programmer Humor!

This is a place where you can post jokes, memes, humor, etc. related to programming!

For sharing awful code theres also Programming Horror.

Rules

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have that much difficulty with JavaScript then it’s likely you’ll suffer with any language.

[–] MakeAvoy 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except strict equality, that's a JavaScript only problem. Imagine thinking "0" should be falsy in comparison due to string literal evaluation, but truthy with logical not applied based on non-empty string. Thus !"0"=="0" is true. They couldn't just throw away == and start over nooooo let's add === . Utter madness

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Browser compatibility. Design flaws can't easily be fixed like how other languages can just switch to a new major version and introduce breaking changes. ES must keep backwards compatibility so has had to do more additive changes than replacing behavior altogether so that older web pages pages don't break.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile google is about to break the internet with html drm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strict vs loose equality has gotten me so many times, but I can sort of see why they did it. The problem you mention with integers 0 & 1 is a major annoyance though. Like it is fairly common to check whether a variable is populated by using if (variable) {} - if the variable happens to be an integer, and that integer happens to be 0, loose quality will reflect that as false.

But on the other side, there have been plenty of occasions where I'm expecting a boolean to come from somewhere and instead the data is passed as a text string. "true" == true but "true" !== true

[–] MakeAvoy 3 points 1 year ago

Lua does intrinsic evaluation of strings that i'd argue is not nearly as crazy. I get the value of it since half of interpreted languages it just churning through strings. But I also don't recommend any large codebase ever use JS's == or string coercion because it can go against expectations. This graph argues in JS's favor but comparison is a little more crazy https://algassert.com/visualization/2014/03/27/Better-JS-Equality-Table.html