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Dogs were hardwired by selective breeding to worship their owners. Not long ago they at least were loyal companions. You got one off the streets, fed it leftovers, washed it with a hose, it lived in the yard, and it was VERY happy and proud of doing its job. Some breeds now were bred into painful disabling deformities just to look "cute", and they became hysterical neurotic yapping fashion accessories. Useless high maintenance toys people store in small cages ("oh, but my child loves his cage") when they don't need hardwired unconditional lopsided "love" to feed their narcissism.
Lapdogs have been around for thousands of years. It's only very recently that they've been bred so extremely that they can't breathe.
Thousands of years ago they were dogs, not fashion accessories.
You sure?
Yes, I'm pretty sure they were still dogs. No crippling deformities.
(edit: but if you need to filter "anecdotal" evidence, just add "in the western world, in modern history"?)
And it's being reversed. Pugs are going back to being bread with longer nose features.
As long as you keep it in your own family instead of pruning your neighbors tree...
I do agree that the caging trend is fucking awful. I have friends who leave their two large dogs caged for 8 hours a day and it crushes me. These are both well behaved dogs who wouldn't make a mess out of a cage so I really just don't get the point, other than it's millennial meta to do cage training.
Yes, and I heard as a response "but he LOVES the cage". Really? Why does it need a door with a latch then?
The "cage" thing is weird, because it seems like it is used by the worst/laziest dog owners, and by good dog owners / trainers (with very different reasoning). The average dog owner seems to not even use "cages" much.
Anyway, crate training is very much worth it, but it takes a significant effort
How is this unpopular?
Haha, I guess many dog owners just can't see it how it is; probably an addiction to the lopsided unconditional "love". I used to comment something similar back in Reddit, just to see the flood of downvotes and outraged dog owners.
Same reaction to supporting the idea that some breeds are generally more dangerous and/or more aggressive. "Oh, my MY pitbull is a sweetie!!" (adding this here just to test :D )
I think people are stupid about pets in general, just like they're stupid about everything else. There are plenty of people who could make a good home for almost any animal, even a pitbull. There's no "one size fits all" when it comes to pet ownership.
I agree with you about how awful it is to use these dogs as fashion accessories and put them in crates. I also think it's because a lot of people desire the "lopsided love". It definitely feeds their egos and a lot of them are narcissists, don't know any better because they're stupid or both.
Animals should only be in cages temporarily for the right reasons. I hate when people claim that their dogs love their cages. They don't love them. They are just trained and conditioned to tolerate them. Most dogs do want to please their owners and it's very convenient for these assholes to believe their dogs love being in their cages for hours on end.
Modern dogs shouldn't exist and all breeds sould be put down for the good of nature