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[–] [email protected] 109 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Technically you don’t need a vpn if you live in certain countries where the government doesn’t give a shit that you torrent.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only thing Eastern Europe does better than the west

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe it's luck but I've shamelessly torrented in the UK my whole life, I wouldn't be surprised if in the past fifteen years, I've downloaded a petabyte on pirated content.

I've never used a VPN and the one time I got a letter from my ISP, I suspect it was a scam anyway. I have used at least 4 ISPs in this period and two mobile networks, I've even used public and work WiFis with not issue.

I'm not sure if this a UK thing or if I'm just wildly lucky.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Have the same story here in Belgium.

Never gotten a letter.

In the Netherlands they pay a small fee (3.5€ on a new phone) on every electronics "with which you can download", which allows them to pirate without much worrying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

We have such a fee as well in Sweden, but piracy is still illegal and prosecuted.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm stateside, and I torrented something once without a VPN and got an email complaint from my ISP not long after.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

To be fair, I'm also stateside and, while I knew enough to know not to do it with abandon, I've torrented without a VPN at least a handful of times and never got anything from my ISPs in two decades.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I'm doing fine in Ireland anyway.

[–] ICastFist 11 points 2 days ago

Brazil and most Latin American countries are also safe pirate havens, unless you set up a for-profit piracy site, then you're painting a huge target on your head.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can also just direct download games without a VPN.

100% safe?

No, but uh, ISPs have so heavily switched over to monitoring torrents, they kind of forgot the other option exists.

(I'll update this with a -whoops I got fucked- if that happens, but I've been doing this for half a year now, no problems.)

Another option is I2P for either direct dls or torrents, no subscription fee, but it is quite slow.