This is super interesting. But why isn't HTML or CSS a similar mess? I found their structure to be more logical than JS. Parts of JS feels like it's intended as a backend language but parts of it don't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, you don't think html is a mess? Lol.

Css benefited from coming much later than the other two... But it also has issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean semantic html seems like a pretty okay markup language.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. That's like saying js is ok as long as you never use the parts that 90% of js developers use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? I find that css is pretty much the ugly part of html. Html is no worse than markdown or latex. If you just wrote plain HTML and were okay with how it rendered, you would have nicely structured code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My point is that if you only use the parts that don't bring confusion you have a problem... Nobody ever does that in production... Much less with any frameworks. There is no such thing as semantic html at scale or in any modern framework.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That isn't the fault of the language though. It does what it was designed to well. Maybe it is I'll suited to achieve things it wasn't designed to do?

I could absolutely write code to do data analytics with C and gnuplot, does that mean they're the appropriate tools for doing that when pandas, SPSS, Julia or matlab exists? Probably not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe I misunderstood your position. It seems like you are now saying you understand how html messy?