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Russia has moved to classify key demographic statistics following a dramatic collapse in its birth rate, which has plunged to levels not seen since the late 18th or early 19th century, according to a leading Russian demographer.

For decades, Russia has been experiencing a plunging birth rate and population decline, which appears to have worsened amid its ongoing invasion of Ukraine—with high casualty rates and men fleeing the country to avoid being conscripted to fight.

Projections estimate that Russia's population will fall to about 132 million in the next two decades. The United Nations has predicted that in a worst-case scenario, by the start of the next century, Russia's population could almost halve to 83 million.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Seriously. If you are a woman, do you want to bring a child into this world?? Our climate is a disaster, and anyone who “could” do anything about it is doing everything they can to accumulate wealth at the expense of the planet. Fascism and misinformation is rampant. Geezus, people are telling Mothers that inoculations are bad. Think about that… polio vaccines that rescued generations of children from “iron lungs”, leg braces, and death. Those vaccines were developed from science. SCIENCE I’m an old lady now. If I was young and of child bearing years—I would not have children.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

I promise you, the last thing on the minds of Russian women in this moment is climate change

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a woman, with two kids, they’re not my biological children. I never wanted to have kids but other people are having kids and I figure why not love the kids already here? There’s plenty of kids to go around there’s no need for me to personally make a kid. If the kids are already here we should do as much as we can to make their lives good but if they’re not already here it should stay that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

100% agreed. If possible, get a rescue kid. (In general, without getting into the nitty gritty details about the adoption processes around the world.)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

As a dude, I wouldn't want to bring a kid into this shithole of a world either. Most of my generation doesn't, and I can see why.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So, if you want to get snipped, does the doctor ask , “does your significant other agree with what you’re doing? Maybe they should be here during this decision”. Does that sound ridiculous?? Well, that’s what women deal with on a regular basis.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Im 57, i tried to have a vasectomy at 18 and was refused here in Australia mutiple times over 2 years because "I would change mind" and I was told I would meet somone who would want to have kid with me and they'd be upset if i was unable to."

I flew to Thailand in my late 20s and had it done at the end of a holiday there in a hospital in Bangkok, no pun intended.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Even in 2016 when I had mine done it had to be done abroad even though I lived in a country where any consenting adult can ask to be sterilised without legally mandated delays or any nanny state bullshit. I was poor otherwise I could have sued half the urologists in the country because they gave wrong reasons for refusing like me not having children and me being young.

One also scammed me by sending me to a psychiatrist buddy of his who just went on to spend 30 minutes insulting my intelligence for wanting to not bring children into this world. I'm glad I learned the lesson at that age that just because people are doctors it doesn't mean they're not disrespectful and/or stupid.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

"vasectomy" - so he is a man. You're not helping your cause by antagonizing half of the population (men).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I hate to shit on your general point, but they absolutely do ask in this case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I stand corrected

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Not sure where you’re from. If a woman wants to sterilize in the U.S. it’s a HUGE problem: If you’re married they want the husband to verify your decision. If you’re a young woman, they’ll deny because “you may change your mind”. BUT, a man can get snipped no questions asked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm a snipped man... there were a lot of questions.

I don't know who told you "no questions asked", but that definitely doesn't match my lived experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I was refused (tried a few tines from 18-20) and had it done overseas im my late 20s. Thay was decades ago though so it might have changed.

Am Australian.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

OK, but did the Doctor insist that your significant other/wife must come in and agree to the procedure?? NO. You answered a lot of questions, and the procedure went forward. It was YOUR decision.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

So I refute one specific point of your argument. Another commenter even says they were outright denied. And your sane and rational response is "well that doesn't matter" and you downvote me even though I was adding to the topic/discussion that you brought up?

Grow up dude.

Unfortunately for your case, you're still wrong. But that won't change your mind regardless and I'm not interested in talking to someone who acts the way you are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

It's the false liability excuse. They think women will sue since it's not as reversible. Really it's management just justifying their jobs with bullshit policies.

Start locking up management who try to dictate patient care for practicing medicine without a license, see how fast most things level out.

That includes insurance groups, hospitals, and any other group who doesnt have an MD at the top level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah! that's what I am thinking too, have been for years now. but at the same time babies are booming in the area (not russia, but east eu) so obviously a lot of people think differently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

You say booming ? But every woman needs to have 2.1.on average to have a stable population, so "booming" would be 4-8 at least, per woman. Is it that high ? Hungary ?

Australia's first female member of it's federal parliment had 13 kids for example, my mother was one of 8, I was one of three, my brother has 2, my sister and I none.