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Got misgendered and yelled at recently by a trans woman who argued that I'm just a cis person trying to seem special and that I don't understand what it's like to really be misgendered and oppressed. She told me that I don't understand real dysphoria and that I'm just trying to stand out as a "cool dude". Ironically I felt progressively more dysphoric and angry every time she kept calling me a man. It took every last ounce of willpower in me to stop myself from beating her bloody. Now I'm feeling like shit today and probably will continue feeling like shit tomorrow.

Why are some people so fucking terrible.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ha, well - that should be pretty much natural, tbh

IRL I find a lot of otherwise binary trans women use "she/they" pronouns and adopt a non-binary identity while otherwise fitting the typical arc of a binary trans woman. I notice many of them struggle with imposter syndrome and I sometimes wonder if that's part of the reason for their non-binary self-conception, or if it's a way of understanding and relating to when dysphoria doesn't match the extreme stereotype of a trans woman, e.g. if they don't have much or any bottom dysphoria, etc.

I actually avoided transitioning for many years by adopting a non-binary identity, I figured my dysphoria wasn't bad enough to justify anything like medical transition (and at the time I didn't know non-binary people were considered trans, so I thought I was "non-binary and not trans"), so I often think about how I struggled with self-awareness and identity and just assume others are going through the same thing.

Sometimes it can be hard to communicate - e.g. talking about a transfem enby, there is a huge range of what that covers ... there are basically-binary, medically-transitioned trans women who identify as non-binary, there are agender folks, people who feel like they are both male and female, and so on. It's very hard when so many people are lumped together, when I talk about "enbies" there is little that can be said is true of all or most of them (this is true of trans people generally, tbh).

I guess in my mind the paradigmatic transfem enby is Jacob Tobia, but I don't know a single person IRL who is like them. Most transfem enbies I know IRL are not that different than the binary trans women I know, the enby identity doesn't differentiate much. One transfem enby I know IRL takes a lower dose of estrogen and they are the closest transfem enby I know to not being basically like a binary trans woman. I don't know a single person IRL who uses only they/them pronouns. The one person who did use they/them for a short while was a trans man who was struggling in their transition and finally changed their pronouns to he/him.

So what it means to be non-binary is pretty open, at this point I usually just try to learn what the person themselves wants and how they understand their own gender, and then I just respect and try to see them the way they want to be seen.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, I was referring to how the strict gatekeeping between transgender vs nonbinary puts me in an awkward spot, because it treats nonbinary as completely distinct. I disagree with the premise now, but in early transition it definitely made me feel I had to be a certain way to count.

Funny you mention "she/they". I used to use "they" for imposter syndrome reasons, then moved to preferring "she", and now I'm considering going back. I'm a bit gender fluid so sometimes one feels more right, but honestly I don't want to deal with changing pronouns because that seems annoying to administer.