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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sounds like the best thing that could happen to Firefox

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately, Mozilla is investing a ton of money into AI, too.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A desperate attempt of revenue diversification.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Considering how little they invest into their core product compared to all the other shit and how much money the top brass earns despite declining market share, I don't think they're hurting for money that much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are investing a lot in their core product. Problem is that you can't really monatize it. You want Firefox to be paywalled?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ideally it would be financed by user donations. Probably not that realistic for a project like this, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You can't finance a massive project like that with donations. This isn't like Signal or some small project like that. Firefox is MASSIVE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, web browsers cost hundreds of millions per year to maintain, they're mind-bogglingly complicated and costly.

I'd really hope the Linux Foundation would help contribute towards the budget, but LF is quite pro Chromium.

I don't think end users can even come close to funding Firefox development, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of their I initiatives are good, like the built-in local translation tool we now have.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Also their initiative to recognise images and generate alt-text for screen-reader users.

My sister is blind and screen readers are close to useless on the web, so it was great to hear Mozilla is working on that.

[–] vivendi 16 points 1 month ago

Mozilla works mainly on LOCAL AI not this corporate trash like closedAI

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That really doesn't solve the problem, like every other Firefox fork they're completely dependent on Firefox. You can't just make a new webbrowser just like that, and while third party developers can certainly disable some anti-features, there are limits to that and they can definitely not do the basic work that the Firefox devs do (or could do, if Mozilla had different priorities).

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mozilla spinning off control of its development to an independent group the way they did with Thunderbird would be the best thing that could happen to Firefox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird :

Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.

Chrome self-destructing because of stupidity like AI would only ever manage to be a close second, at best.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Has Mozilla indicated any openness to taking that approach with Firefox?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago

Firefox, the software mainly driven by Mozilla, which is heavily investing in AI and ads ventures? That Firefox?

But, maybe "it will be different this time", I guess.