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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?

(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But do they use a different software? Maybe FSD is more advanced than autopilot and could have reacted better?

Just playing devil's advocate here.

[–] undefinedValue 6 points 1 month ago

The software may change but these tests show it’s the hardware that’s limiting them. If the Tesla can’t see a kid through fog, it doesn’t matter what software you pick, that kid gunna die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, completely different software, but both are limited by machine vision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Human drivers use vision only

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fortunately humans have much better hardware and software to accompany that vision.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

And still we cause so many deaths because we are tired, distracted or emotional when driving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

But...it's not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Based on? Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

It's not there yet but I don't see how it can't work with vision only. It just has to be safer than human drivers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Based on?

The fact that both systems are vision only, as I said previously.

Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

Even better, I used it myself. For 3 months. It's awful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Human drivers generally use sound as well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

"Full shelf driving" still needs to be in quotes. It's a feature's brand name for a product that doesn't actually have full self driving capabilities.

Try not to carry water for their attempted, repeated lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Philip DeFranco had him on Yesterday and he said the reason he didn't use FSD was that it required you to input an address, but that there isn't any difference in terms of the sensors being used.

Given that the other car didn't appear to have a version of FSD either, I'm unclear as to why Autopilot wasn't the correct move for the most accurate comparison.