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Linus sets his foot down, against the gatekeeping attempts in the kernel (lore.kernel.org)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by snaggen to c/rust
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So let me be very clear: if you as a maintainer feel that you control who or what can use your code, YOU ARE WRONG.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing speculative about it. The substance of the problem (obstinate, crotchety baby that was blocking useful code) was ignored and Linus instead chose to wrongly focus on Marcan calling out the problem. There's nothing wrong with people calling out toxic bullshit, and it seemed that social media was necessary for that in this case, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it was ignored for 5 days, hardly forever. does Linus' SLA need to be quicker?

making things public loads the issue with political and social pressure making more damage to the project and everyone involved inevitable. it was made more toxic

the code would have made it in either way

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You are really trying hard to contort things into things I didn't say.

The people problem is being ignored, and it wasn't until Linus was made aware of a technical justification for slapping Hellwig down that Linus focused his disapproval away from Marcan, who was rightly calling this out, to the person creating the problem.

And we lost at least three solid R4L devs, of which, Marcan was one, and there's zero acknowledgement from Linus that fixating on Marcan rightly calling this shit out was wrong.

The people problem of letting obstinate babies block valid code for any non-technical reason still has not been addressed, and this will keep happening until that changes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

so now you say nothing has been resolved after all?

social media or not, we still have the:

people problem of letting obstinate babies block valid code for any non-technical reason

so when you said

Airing-out Hellwig's successful attempt to sabotage Rust efforts was good, actually.

what you meant was, it didn't do a damn thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not what any of that means. Your reading comprehension could use some work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

lol well thanks for not explaining yet again

lets just say i agree with the comment next to your initial comment, maybe you can attempt to make your point with them