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US should not have made concessions to Russia over Ukraine, says German minister (www.theguardian.com)

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Summary

Germany’s defense minister, Boris Pistorius, criticized the U.S. for making concessions to Russia before peace talks, particularly ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine and accepting territorial losses.

His concerns were echoed by France’s defense minister, Sébastien Lecornu.

Trump’s recent call with Putin sparked European opposition, with key nations reaffirming their support for Ukraine’s sovereignty.

The Kremlin welcomed Trump’s stance, while Ukraine maintained its NATO aspirations.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

According to Moscow, Russia is a great power. And, I mean, sure, it's an empire, has been since Ivan the Terrible, it peaked with the Soviet Union and is now trying to re-establish its rightful place in the world.

According to the rest of Russia, where the fuck is our indoor plumbing. It would be right-out trivial to break Russia apart, with its various people and identities scattered over vast areas of territory, given how brittle it is politically and economically. It might still collapse on its own, but a proper invasion would right-out force the issue, also, something something nukes. So even if the US doesn't intend to, an actual face-off with Russia would mean the end of Russia as we know it.