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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

That's entirely speculative. There are diminishing returns. Unless you're going to host your own YouTube, the use case for 50Gbps connections to the home is quite small. 4K video streaming at Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrates doesn't even come close to saturating 1Gbps, and all streaming services compress 4K video significantly more than what Ultra HD Blu-ray offers. The server side is the limit, not home connections.

Now, if you want to talk about self-hosting stuff and returning the Internet to a more peer-to-peer architecture, then you need IPv6. Having any kind of NAT in the way is not going to work. Connection speed still isn't that important.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

there could be some new thing that no one has not even bothered to think about because of the limitations. Imagine streaming back when downloading few kilobytes for an hours was considered reasonable, people would have laughed at the very thought of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

We're not using the bandwidth we have. Many US cities have service with 1Gbps download speed available. I have it for my own reasons. Servers are the bottleneck; they rarely even reach half that speed.

If we're not using 1Gbps, why should we believe something would pop up if we had 50Gbps?

Now, direct addressing where everyone can be a server and bandwidth utilization is spread more towards the edges of the network? Then you have something that could saturate 1Gbps. But you can't do that on IPv4.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you're going to host your own YouTube....

This is exactly what peer tube is struggling with. This bandwidth would solve the video federation problem.

See, you get it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Except we need IPv6 before that's at all viable.

We are not even filling out the bandwidth of pipes we have to the home right now. "If you build it, they will come" does not apply when there's already something there that isn't being fully utilized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh, maybe. I'm not familiar with bandwidth utilization in China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly does NAT prevent that? On good hardware it adds insignificant latency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It has nothing to do with latency, and everything to do with not being able to directly address things behind NAT.

Edit: and please, nobody argue that NAT increases security. That dumbass argument should have died the moment it was first uttered.