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Left pushes reading and education right pushes illiteracy and blind faith in the leader but m'authoritatianism
There are many examples of the left pushing blind faith in the leader (see Mao, Kim Il Sung, Stalin)
There are many cases of authoritarians claiming labels that so not reflect their actions or goals, yes.
No true Scotsman fallacy
I'm progressive, but we should not deny the failure modes of progressivism
Adopting the names of left leaning styles of government does nothing to change their actual oligarch and kleptocratic styles is leadership, so that does not apply.
Unless we're to believe that Nazi Germany was somehow just a bunch of misguided socialists...
Well, Elon and German far-right politician Alice Weidel claimed in a recent talk that Hitler was a communist...
(a) love your name... though I do prefer farro/emmer when given the choice ;)
(b) of course those nazis did... always co-opting existing names and symbols for evil
Yeah idk, excluding all the historical Marxist Leninists movements from the leftist continuum feels a bit disingenuous.
Soviet Russia wasn't exactly a model of progressivism though— it was a rigidly hierarchical society with extreme wealth disparity.
Same for the other examples.
The NTS fallacy is about redefining terms to cherry-pick data. Those regimes don't match any version of 'progressive' I've ever seen.
There was literally a ~~slip~~ split in the first international. You can't blame those aligning with the lesser influential side for the things the authoritarians did. "The Left" is a far too broad concept to apply the No True Scotsman fallacy to.
Edit: typo
Stalin wasn't progressivism, actually the opposite, it was the conservative part of the party, that inspired the other dictators.
No child left behind has resulted in every child pushed through the system. My son had a IEP so he couldn't be failed. So spare me how pro education the left is. They have and are continuing to fail whole generations of kids with their daft notion of education. I see it everyday. The teachers see it and people like me who regularly deal with kids see it. The left can't see it. The effect is the same and the right are winning by letting the left run the show.
Democrats aren't left wing