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ENS domain are used to name communities.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As the FAQ says, the base protocol doesn’t use tokens.

I don't care what the protocol technically makes feasible, people don't use protocols they use software that interprets protocols. ActivityPub doesn't actually require DNS, but you (correctly) say it does because there's no software out there people will use that doesn't require DNS. The point is you still tied human readable names to the blockchain, something absolutely not optional for social media software. No one is going to be like "you should sub to p/nrlaoii2nsl2, the memes are 🔥".

NFT profile pics tied to a user’s plebbit account, because we whitelist the specific NFT collections to prevent NSFW profile pics

Who is "we" here and why do they get to decide what's acceptable in my community ('subpleb' if you will)?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You can create a plebbit client that uses DNS instead of crypto domains to resolve the addresses, but it won't be compatible with our clients because we think that's a terrible idea. The whole DNS system is a complete scam, it's controlled by very few people, all in the same jurisdiction. There is absolutely no point to plebbit if most people will use .lol or .fun names that the US government can seize with no effort.

DNS is not the future, crypto is the future.

Who is “we” here and why do they get to decide what’s acceptable in my community (‘subpleb’ if you will)?

For our clients, "we" means us devs, the devs of Seedit and Plebchan. You can create your own client where you have NSFW profile pics, maybe resolved with regular centralized image hosting websites instead of NFTs like we did. Our NFT whitelist is only temporarily centralized, same as our default list of subplebbit addresses to show in the homepage of the client (before the user is subscribed to any sub). Both lists are here: github.com/plebbit/temporary-default-subplebbits In our clients, we will decentralize this curation via gasless pubsub voting by token holders. There's no other way to decentralize it, so this is another thing that crypto excels at (DAOs).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"The whole DNS system is a complete scam" says the person advocating for crypto and NFTs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, that's the one thing he is right about. Also, it's far from being secure. I somehow made the DNS system break someday, as I was able to "buy" an already-registered domain. The domain ownership was overriden and the original owner couldn't do anything. I have not been able to replicate the bug on any other target, but understanding the bug and finding an exploit is basically unlocking god-mode on 99% of computers as you can mitm all you want with this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I somehow made the DNS system break someday, as I was able to “buy” an already-registered domain

This could happen on a blockchain, as well. All it takes is to control a majority of the miners. One reason I laugh when people claims btc or other ponzicoins are "distributed", since most miners are controlled by China at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You mean that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine you buy a cheap domain name for $0.99 a year from namecheap to be lonefaerie.lol or something

Next year they ask for $19.99 because they can. If you set up an account with that name you can either pay more or have to change accounts

Why can't we just buy domain names for like 30 year periods?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why can’t we just buy domain names for like 30 year periods?

You can. I think ICANN has agreed to limit it to 10 year maximum, to reduce domain squatting, though.

This is a HUGE problem in the IT sector... A lot of folks come up with "new, better, and more agile" systems for core tech, like DNS. What they fail to account for are all the lessons learned, and problems solved over the decades the system has been in use, and fail to understand a lot of the "complications" stem from people being complicated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the problem, I want a personal domain like name.person for the rest of my life. I don't want it to expire and have to pay extortion rates for my email address

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

So, what you propose just isn't feasible.

Who is the one who gets John Doe? First come, first serve, and never again available?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DNS is not the future, crypto is the future.

There are other alternatives to DNS that don't require you to boil the oceans, e.g. GNUnet has their own thing.

In our clients, we will decentralize this curation via gasless pubsub voting by token holders. There’s no other way to decentralize it, so this is another thing that crypto excels at (DAOs).

This isn't decentralising the whitelist/default subs, it's shareholder-ising. It's also just recreating the notion of admins in ActivityPub, or replay controllers in notstr. You still have a set of privileged users able to make decisions for others, albeit less privileged than AP admins.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying nor do I believe crypto is the future, but this project seems to use Etherium and Solana, both of which are proof of stake and will not be using huge amounts of power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Etherium actually transitioned to proof-of-stake? Last I heard it was something they were planning to but it was being delayed for years. Good for them for actually doing it, I still don't trust the technology and refuse to use anything that integrates it, but at least it's not so actively destructive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The whole DNS system is a complete scam, it’s controlled by very few people, all in the same jurisdiction

Ah, I see. You don't actually understand how DNS works.

What if I told you, that each TLD is managed by a different organization... And not one organization. And, what if I told you, its distributed globally, to people in different nation-states? And then, what if I told you: Anyone can create a new TLD, if they either a) put in a lot of work, or b) put in a lot of money?

And, what if I told you... You can bundle a libc resolver, that can intercept your cool domains, and provide answers for it, using any sort of backing store you could imagine?