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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Survival of the fittest" (when used without trying to understand its actual meaning).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Fittest means most suited to the environmwnt, not necessarily strongest, fastest, smartest etc

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is from Darwin, I think. It describes the mechanism of selection in evolution: the organisms that are better adapted to their environments are the ones more likely to survive.

Bady likely hates it because it's often misused, by transforming it in a prescriptive statement (from "the fittest survives" to "the fittest deserves to survive) and/or ignoring that what's considered the fittest depends on the environment (e.g. a fish isn't fit in a dry environment, but a cactus isn't fit in the sea).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Also the word 'fitness' is colored a bit by our current corporal culture ('fit' is something one can become of one aspires to be it). Whilst in the Darwinian reading it's more like an accidental occurrence (a mutation made the species more fit by accident).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Specifically natural selection. Sexual selection is also a type survival of the fittest, but its fitness in attracting mates and assuring survival of offspring, regardless of how well this adapts to the environment. And artificial selection grants survival to the traits the selector wants, again not necessarily favoring environmental adaptations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse, he probably refers to social darwinism.
A very nasty school of thought that’s (partly) responsible for everything from genocide to eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Social "Darwinism" relies on the fallacy that I mentioned, where you treat a descriptive statement as if it was prescriptive. (And yes, it's nasty.)