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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There’s a picture of him holding a McD happy meal?? He had the gun and manifesto just laying there in his backpack? You f’ing kidding??

Some elite fucks used an advanced AI search algorithm to search a bunch of people who vaguely looked like him. Input term search for social media and ‘reviews’ to further narrow down until you find someone who has a few tweets and posts that the media can point to say “yup hey look, he liked Kzynski’s manifesto on goodreads…got the guy!”. Plant evidence, and you got your scapegoat.

This poor kids’ life is ruined. And he will probably be threatened if he doesn’t plead guilty and waive jury trial. He’ll get a visit from the MIB threatening to skin his family alive in front of him if he doesn’t play along.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Reading these fantasy takes is exhausting. It's hard to want to be a part of a community that supports this guy by gaslighting everyone, saying things like "it's not the same guy in the four photos!" Just hundreds of people all convinced they can secure this guys freedom by acting dumb and face blind- you've created a whole fictional scenario here that's just unbelievable and unrealistic.

If he didn't want to get caught he shouldn't have left DNA all over, shouldn't have taken off his mask, shouldn't be carrying the murder weapon days later... He could have helped himself but instead there's an army of idiots who are probably just creating this fan fiction to impress their peers. It's very childish though. This guy tried to do something which is commendable, or maybe he's just mentally ill, but I'm just tired of reading all this nonsense. Who are you signalling to?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I posted this elsewhere, but this is one of the few times I buy the conspiracy theory, not the official story.

Dude pulls off a targeted assassination, gets away clean, trolls the cops with a bag of monopoly money, gets out of the state, stays essentially hidden for almost a week... And then gets clocked by some poor maccas employee and gets taken in with a manifesto AND a gun on his person?

It's the nazi flag and 3 copies of The Sims all over again, except this time the folks doing it are slightly more competent and actually pulled it off.

This case is so important, so high profile, that they just need to arrest someone ASAP. Anyone. And that person is not in for a good time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a simple explanation: He wanted to keep on the move, and he wanted to be able to take down other targets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

smh that doesn't fit the narrative

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

His face jas been plastered everywhere for the past week. My YouTube home page literally had 3-4 thumbnails of his face on every reload. Lemmy....X....news sites...massive exposure.

So yah...some random worker notices his face looks kind of similar while he's dining at his favorite spot and bam. Don't forget there was a $10k bounty, plenty of fast food workers might be itching to collect on something like that.

He probably figured once he was questioned about anything that they'd eventually get him so he prepared for that scenario. Or maybe this wasn't even his last stop on his triple-D tour so he was still geared up.

We'll see him in court. If he's innocent then he make a pretty good argument and then we can decide whether to raise eyebrows but this all just seems Q-anon levels of silly right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

there was a $10k bounty,

$60k. $10k from NYPD and $50k from the FBI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

$50k from the FBI?! You gotta be shitting me... If this happened to anyone of us the FBI wouldn't give a single fuck.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

To be fair, people were posting actors who look like the very shitty pictures we have of the guy too, and I buy some of them. Honestly, the picture we have looks more like Timothée Chalamet than this guy. I'm not saying it isn't this guy, or it is Chalamet, but there's a shit ton of people in this world, and a lot look like the shooter.

Edit to add: I'll never trust the word of the authorities. They have to prove that this is the man. It's their duty, not ours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If you look at a photo of the guy taken from above him, so a similar angle to the surveillance camera, he looks very similar. I do think it's him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It reminds me of people in the UFO community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The fantasy takes are so close to the people that still believe GameStop and AMC will still have a short squeeze.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

I think he knew he was going to get caught. Words on bullets, monopoly money... It's trying to make the story larger and larger. Pretty sure he will make a show in front of the jury.

I don't know if that will work, but I respect that more than he killed the pig without making clear why.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't convince me this is the real shooter, this guy looks more like Skeet from Jimmy Neutron than the "Grin Reaper" in the now famous pic

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I said this to many folks IRL, the guy the NYPD charges will not be the shooter. just some poor sap that gets sent to prison for life because he had a dissenting opinion.

it's the high price we pay to keep them in power.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What would "the elites" stand to gain from framing this dude, while the actual killer is still on the loose?

This is pretty unhinged, to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

to make an example of someone to try to dissuade others from following in his footsteps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

By sending him to prison?

That's not really telling people anything they didn't already know.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The killer is not as dangerous as the approval for his act. The government wants to prevent copycat vigilantes by making an example out of him. Regardless whether this guy is guilty or not, they'll drag him through the deepest mud and then string him up with the harshest possible sentence, to discourage others from gunning down CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I very much doubt the possibility of going to prison will deter someone pissed off enough to kill someone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not adopting the conspiracy here, but if they can't find the shooter with the whole country getting behind him, then they would want the optics of finding the shooter. Which could backfire, of course. It would be very telling, for example, if the cops got real confident about it and then the real shooter made some kind of public display with the false shooter in custody.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This was my thought process, too. If they got a framed guy here, the actual CEO killer would likely or hopefully do something else to let the public know that they were still out there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, thats part of the reason I don't buy it. If the actual killer acts again, it will be very embarrassing for the police.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They gain by preventing copycat killers. If other poors think that he got away with it, they might think they can, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I get that. However, the optics of having a successful “martyr” symbol is very, very dangerous. A wide scope of narrative means difficult to control. Difficult to control introduces “motivator to action” symbols among a, I think, specific (and quite populous) demographic (think of all the young males with zero purpose, waiting to seize on an opportunity for a real life Mr Robot, for example)… “well if he could do it, get away with it, AND become a ’hero’, what’s stopping me from doing the same?”

Having someone, anyone, buys time to craft the narrative and gauge public sentiment and, most importantly, dampen the probability of a revolutionary ’spark’ if you will.

Obviously we don’t have enough information here. It very well could be the dude they have in custody. I am only sharing one possible theory based off my experience and observations. And there are a number of very suspect observations here that are in line with narrative management.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I think the actual truth is, this guy isn't a criminal mastermind, and he got caught.

He also looks a lot like the surveillance photo.