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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the point? The left get demoralized and the right can't be because they have no morals. Its part of the reason right wingers tend to have a dozen children, it's quite literally biblical drown them in numbers bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It absolutely isnt

President Comacho has a problem, finds the most qualified person to fix it, does so (reluctantly) and then dosen't take credit. This so divorced from reality that it should be concidred high fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Idiocracy has this basic assumption that people are generally acting in good faith, even the ones with more selfish tendencies. It's been a while since I've seen it, but didn't someone else get frozen along with the MC and started out with a "fuck you, I'll take care of myself however I need to" before later pivoting to a "we need to work together to save the world!"

Just like that Batman scene where the boat full of civilians and the boat full of criminals have the trigger for each others' bombs. In the real world, I'd bet the guard that was handed the trigger on the prisoner boat would have pressed it almost immediately. And if he didn't, there would have been a riot on the civilian boat to push it rather than a calm vote that decides against it, followed closely by the same thing on the prisoner boat. And many from both boats would have just bailed into the water rather than trust the other boat to not kill them. Joker would have been completely right in his prediction of how things would go. Especially in a city like Gotham. The catch should have been that the boats had their own trigger instead of each others'.

[–] gbuttersnaps 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Well I'd assume Joker was lying and that each boat actually controlled their own bomb to fuck with the ones who didn't press the button, because who would believe they didn't press it? It would cause so much more chaos that way (actually max chaos might be to rig both buttons to blow up the prisoners, though I could also see reasons for him to rig up both to blow up the civilians).

I'm not even sure I'd be on the boat in the first place, though it's easy to say that in hindsight, knowing how things turn out. I'd probably have made every effort to gtfo of Gotham earlier than that if I could.

But for an answer that doesn't completely sidestep the question, I don't know. It's a prisoner's dilemma and I know the optimal solution is if both sides trust each other, but I'd also have a hard time trusting both the other prisoner as well as the "guards" (in this case Joker) setting up the whole situation, knowing there's no reason they need to be honest about the outcomes of each choice. Like even in the movie, Joker was going to just blow up at least one of the boats anyways when neither of them pressed the button.

Best bet would probably be to go for a swim.

What about you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That’s the only thing preventing it from being categorized as a documentary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I thought about it and it’s just unfortunate kimbo slice died before he could eventually be president. He could have been the one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

it’s quite literally biblical drown them in numbers bullshit.

Yes, it's called (disgustingly) the "Quiverfull Movement"