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Elon Musk Suddenly Realizes That Teslas With "Self-Driving" Computers May Never Be Able to Actually Self-Drive (futurism.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"Translation: all the times Tesla has vowed that all of its vehicles would soon be capable of fully driving themselves may have been a convenient act of salesmanship that ultimately turned out not to be true."

Another way to say that, is Tesla scammed all of their customers, since you know, everyone saw this coming...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't believe that you can use traditional algorithms to teach the car street driving, because there are to many different variations of intersections, traffic signs, special conditions like accidents, heavy Rain or fog, road closures or construction sites to get it right every time. Even if your autopilot is 99% correct and you drive 20000km a year, you still drive wrong 200km of it.

This doesn't mean that AI will be better, because then you don't even have a source code to track down where it went wrong to correct it in future updates.

[–] MajorHavoc 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't believe that you can use traditional algorithms to teach the car street driving, because there are to many different variations... Even if your autopilot is 99% correct and you drive 20000km a year, you still drive wrong 200km of it.

Exactly!

And this is why, if the problem is solveable, it must be solved by learning models shepherded by expert engineers. The LLMs can take care of the long boring stretches, freeing skilled engineer time to fine-tune an LLM algorithm hybrid for the tricky bits.

I'm inclined to believe the problem is solveable, but since I'm not selling anything, I'm allowed to say "if". Heh.