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"Delicious"?
My fucking god.
I'd like to see Gordon Ramsay reacting to people saying that cubes of meat in lightly salted water are "delicious."
The self-deluding is insane.
I mean, there are modern versions which actually add spices and vegetables, and then it is good, but that isn't "traditional" per se.
I mean I like the taste of meat so I really like it
Just... plain, unpeppered meat?
Whatever floats your goat, man.
What makes you feel like pepper is such an incredible and necessary ingredient?
It's no the lack of pepper. It's the lack of everything.
What makes you think boiled undersalted meat cubes are a meal?
If the meat is good, it'll be good with or without pepper.
Overall I feel like boiling is in general ignorantly ridiculed far too much by modern cooking culture, especially famous restaurant chefs. Stews are usually easily better than the average "home chef's" steak attempt #62.
Good meat doesn't need anything else than salt imo. But usually Karelian stew has pepper and other stuff in it too.
Traditional Karelian Stew only says salt in the recipe, though.
Some do, some don't. It's not a set in stone thing afaik. Some old recipes are simpler than others. These days mostly always it's more than just meat(s), water, salt.
But like... you definitely see my point here.
Our national dish is boiled, lightly salted meat.
That's shit.
When have you ever heard of anyone discussing "Finnish cuisine"? When have you ever heard of there being a Finnish restaurant somewhere outside of Finland? I'm sure a couple exist, but most are probably "Nordic" and I'll genuinely be surprised if you find one that's a "traditional Finnish food" restaurant in another country.
I mean it's peasant food. Simple, fulfilling and imo pretty good for what it is. Karelian stew being a good example, though I've never actually had it as plain as you described.
Traditional Finnish cuisine isn't anything fancy but it's not really supposed to be either. And I don't mind, I like it.
There's a ton of peasant food from other cultures which is still amazing.
And like I bet with myself, you can't find such s restaurant.
I just disagree there really being any Finnish cuisine. Boiled meat and potatoes does not a cuisine make.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_cuisine
Wow a Wikilink. You sure destroyed all my arguments.
It wasn't meant to change your opinions but to show that "Finnish cuisine" as a thing does exist.
No.
An article about Finnish cuisine exists. Because as a concept, we can talk about it.
But in the sense of there being restaurants for it, like Italian, Mexican, Greek, Indian, Chinese, etc cuisines, I would bet quite a lot that you can't find one single restaurant dedicated to "Finnish cuisine" outside of Finland.
That's what I was saying, the concept exists even if it's not popular or good enough to warrant existing in your opinion.
The concept of say unicorns having sex existing doesn't mean there are any unicorns anywhere having sex.
There are no Finnish restaurants.
In that sense, there is no "Finnish cuisine".
It's just that that's not how cuisine is usually understood. But like I said, I wasn't trying to change your opinion, just noted that as usually defined it does exist.
It definitely is, though.
You're just refusing to use the colloquially definition, because you're Finnish and Finnish dishes technically exist.