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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

I just want all windows games to run on linux with equivalent performance and without anticheat hurdles. After that happens i'm done with windows.

Honestly, i'm really not that far off as-is. Steam Deck already runs most of my library, it's just the games that don't work with a controller that are a problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This is already true for the vast majority of games. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Except for more and more multiplayer games unfortunately. If you only play single player games, Linux gaming is awesome. If you play with your friends, the shitty anticheat situation means you may need to keep Windows around. I have Windows 10 just for Fortnite because my friends play. GTA Online just killed Linux play by adding BattlEye. Just today, one of the biggest online games that did work on Linux including its anticheat dropped support (Apex Legends). We desperately need a way to fight back against this bullshit, because it's undoing all the incredible progress we've made. Valve needs to start banning games from their store for retroactively breaking Linux support.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago

So you keep using Windows to be able to install rootkits?

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Valve needs to start banning games from their store for retroactively breaking Linux support.

Valve did recently mandate games will have to share if they use Kernel Level Anti-Cheat. If nothing else it allows people to better see what games want to own their systems.

If you play with your friends, the shitty anticheat situation means you may need to keep Windows around.

Highly suggest the new Factorio expansion with friends. Game is a shitload of fun and there is no anti-cheat BS.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The way you fight is by using Linux and contributing to the percentage of Linux users on the steam hardware survey. Developers pay attention to that. More Linux users means more support in the future.

Everyone wants to switch to Linux but nobody wants to make the sacrifice of being one of the early adopters to help turn the tide away from windows.

I'm personally gonna do a dual boot with windows as a backup.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I guess you could play Roblox instead and deal with child labor ๐Ÿซ 

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Roblox also doesn't work on Linux IIRC. I don't play it but it was in the Linux gaming news cycle a while ago that they broke Wine compatibility, not sure if it was anticheat related or not.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Could you just spin up WIndows VM if you have decent computer like 16GB RAM and somewhat powerful GPU?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

yeah it was their own anticheat. you can play it perfectly fine (except scrollbars are a bit fast) with Sober though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I made the switch to Mint recently and have been pleasantly surprised with how much of a non-issue it is. Open steam, hit install, hit play. Game runs.

Only thing I had to do was enable a single checkbox in steam to enable Proton for Windows games: "Enable Steam Play for all titles"

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

A handful of games need slight nudges one way or another but overwhelmingly it just works. Way better than it was just a few years ago.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

I just want all windows games to run on linux with equivalent performance and without anticheat hurdles. After that happens i'm done with windows.

That's one strategy. Mine is to just say "fuck it" until the devs and studios make their games more playable on Linux. I can deal with not playing some games to make that happen. That's not for everyone though.

Switching to a better non-mainstream alternative to anything always brings some compatibility pains until enough are doing it to where the tide shifts. I accept this.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

Linux will get multiplayer game support from those straggler game companies when people show the userbase is there. They will always follow the money. So if you stay with Windows the devs won't support Linux. So saying "I'll move to Linux once they support it", will ensure they will never support it.

My suggestion is to dual-boot for now and keep putting pressure on the game devs to support Linux. It's important to dual boot and run as many games on Linux as possible for now to show in the steam metrics that more people are leaving Windows.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

You can get a dock and plug in a mouse and keyboard, a monitor, etc...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I would just use my desktop for that use case. There's still a small minority of games that just don't work via proton but it's really a minority.

I've also seen a handful of games with linux builds that just don't run properly because they update the game but don't do enough QA to the linux build or simply don't put resources towards linux issues to the same degree that windows gets.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I ran PopOS on linux for years, every game I had worked, and actually performed better than on Windows, once Proton got to version 7.

  • with the exception of games that run multiplayer kernel level anti cheat.

** oh and almost all of those games use anti cheats that are compatible with linux/proton, and have been for 3 years, but the game devs/management just refuse to enable that support, even though its already included in their contracts with AC providers for no extra cost.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

As do I buddy, as do I.

But unfortunately, we only get "most" games running on Linux w/ similar if not equivalent performance. Unfortunately, game devs for some reason refuse to support Linux w/ their anti-cheat implementations (even if the anti-cheat solution works fine on Linux), so getting to 100% is going to take some time and a lot of people shifting to Linux despite not every game working perfectly. Most do though.