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Sweden, Norway rethink plans for cashless societies over fears that fully digital payment systems would leave them vulnerable to Russian security threats (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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A combination of good high-speed internet coverage, high digital literacy rates, large rural populations and fast-growing fintech industries had put the Nordic neighbours on a fast track to a future without cash.

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But Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 and a subsequent rise in cross-border hybrid warfare and cyber-attacks blamed on pro-Russia groups have prompted a rethink.

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The Swedish government has since completely overhauled its defence and preparedness strategy, joining Nato, starting a new form of national service and reactivating its psychological defence agency to combat disinformation from Russia and other adversaries. Norway has tightened controls on its previously porous border with Russia.

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[Norway's] justice and public security ministry said it “recommends everyone keep some cash on hand due to the vulnerabilities of digital payment solutions to cyber-attacks”. It said the government took preparedness seriously “given the increasing global instability with war, digital threats, and climate change. As a result, they’ve ensured that the right to pay with cash is strengthened”.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't like using cashless anything because I know part of the cost is my privacy. Having said that, convenience is a powerful draw and cash can be a pain, especially when you have to find a spot for small coins.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

nobody should be including apple or google spy apps in their payment processing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are using Mastercard in the US, Google will be getting transaction data all the same: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45368040

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, now I have to switch my primary credit card. Any concerns w/ Visa?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

apple and google is just a small part of the problem. using a debit card is not much better either

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look into Monero. You get the benefits of digital payments, but you get the privacy of cash.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use monero online and cash offline, because no one accepts monero offline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

because no one accepts monero offline.

With the XMRBazaar map this may change

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Probably not, but one can hope.