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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Should have given them a part of Germany then, instead of having the Palestinians pay for your nation’s crimes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It was not ours to decide after the war but its an interesting thought. I'd like to see the outcome of that alternative timeline.

Many of the administrative positions were still filled with former Nazis. Most germans in denial of what happened. Also the winning powers seemed far more interested in the spoils of war compared to a just but self-limiting gesture of goodwill.

Sketchy ground for such huge undertaking that would have made german willingness and acceptance paramount.

Also the first thing that comes to my mind is that this decision would jave encaged the victims with the perpetrators. Tough deal to sell to the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I think germany is still in denial, i think part of the reason why germany is so opposed to even acknowledge palestinian genocide is because, to acknowledge it, is to acknowledge that the "israel solution" was inadequate.

On its core, the rise of hitler and persecution of jews were a result of racism. The economy fell and people started to blame the jews, it could just as easily have been another minority group.

You can actually see a similar behaviour in modern day germany, The economy went downhill because of a series of bad decisions before covid (over reliance on russian oil, closing all nuclear plants etc.) And the german population started to align themselves with neo nazi (like AfD), as evident from the last election. Neo-nazism now blames immigrants for all the german troubles.

Clearly whatever steps Germany (and the west in general) took, including the creation of israel, were not enough.

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong about anything.

[–] foenkyfjutschah 2 points 3 weeks ago

it could just as easily have been another minority group.

nope.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

These asshole didnt give papers to holocaust survivors. They were apatrides until 1955.

[–] boomzilla 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah and now our industrial gas tanks are filled with non-russian gas, we got one of the most stable energy grids in Europe, we import 2% of our energy from other countries (0.5% from the nuclear power france) and export some of it on good days and energy prices & inflation rates are on a pre-2022 level. Thanks to the Green party.

Then we got rich populists like Merz, Söder, Linnemann, Spahn or Schäffler who are in close ties with the fossil fuel industry (The Republic, BlackRock, Heritage Foundation, Atlas Network, Heartland Institute, Koch Brothers) whose only target during their electoral campaigns are the Greens, immigrants and people on welfare payments. Blaming the Greens for political decissions they supported themselves while they were in power for 16 years (nuclear power exit, end of combustion engines, heating without fossil fuels and fricking bottle caps). Instead of working together with the progressives against the neo nazis from AfD they proclaim they're the solution against their uprising by fighting against the progressives. Weimar Republic reloaded.

All while our political imbecile citizens are believing their talking points and the smear campaigns of "Welt" and "Bild" (funded by above listed networks) that the Greens will be our downfall. I would leave this stupid country if I had the money.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Right-Wing Parties are only a concern in the low populated Eastern German parts. I assure you, in Bavaria we have not forgotten Munich 1972. When Israel took care of the heads behind it pretty much every German applauded.

[–] foenkyfjutschah 1 points 3 weeks ago

na klar, wofür haben die Freien Wähler bei der letzten wahl nochmal so viele punkte dazugewonnnen? iirc waren das inkl. AfD am ende +10% für verkappte nazis. bleib mal locker im Hofbräuhaus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The real reason is that Zionists and Western powers wanted to use Israel to colonize and subjugate the region and also solve Europe's "Jewish problem", a new iteration of the Crusader states.

“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” -- Theodor Herzl

Quote source: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-jewish-state-quot-theodor-herzl

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

The belford declaration was signed for 3 reasons:

  1. the christians at the time thought that by sending jews to the holy land will bring forth their messiah and the world will end.

  2. europe (including britain) had a lot of anti-semites, and the creation of israel meant that there would be less jews in europe.

  3. britain wanted a buffer state/intermediate state between themselves and india so they can influence and subjugate those regions more effectively.

The only jew in the british parliament opposed both the declaration and herzl's idea of zionism. In fact jewish community themselves opposed zionism but then hitler came to power which caused many jews to change their opinions.