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[–] [email protected] 183 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

They go out of their way in the article to not cast any partisan aspirations on the scheme. But it is the same county where Tina Peters used to be the county clerk, and is now in jail after being convicted of election shenanigans for Trump. And it looks like it had the complicity of at least one judge.

Watch this one, folks. The details sadly won't come out until after the election, but when they do I think we will find that Republican talk about election fraud is also projection, like all their other complaints.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's so fucking disgusting. The Republicans have 252527171 ways to try to win this, and we have 1.

Kamala needs to be perfect and Trump could walk on stage with nothing but a shit filled diaper, do the Hitler salute and somehow gain in the poles... It's infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Harris and Trump have very different bases.

If Trump went to New York and shot a black person, his base wouldn't care whereas if Harris did, the Democrats would be in an uproar.

However, if Trump went to New York and gave people COVID shots, now his base would be fucking furious.

Both candidates are appealing to their base. It's just the Democratic base is a bunch of sane and rational people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I understand the bases. I don't understand all the people who won't vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

IDK about projection, but if you convince people that a system is corrupt, they're much more likely to cheat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

A little of column A; a little of column B.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

republicans would NEVER

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

You're probably right but I don't really get it. Mesa County is so red that Trump won by 28 points in 2020. What was this person trying to achieve? For that matter, what was Tina Peters was trying to achieve? I just don't understand how either of them could have made a difference when, in 2020, Trump won by over 25K votes out of a total of 91K votes cast and 107K registered voters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

the county totals don't matter for president, it is counted statewide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

And the statewide margin was still a 14 point margin. Too much to overcome with 12 stolen ballots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps they wanted it to be caught, where it wouldn't make a difference if it wasn't, in order to shore up their future claims that more of the same occurred in more competitive districts. As well as undermining faith in the election as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

That’s actually a very insightful theory.

But if I had to bet on it, I’d still put my money on outright stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There are more things to vote on than just the President. State representation is important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

You're right, it is. In 2020 not a single race in Mesa County was competitive. Likewise, none of the state-wide races were competitive enough to have their results changed even if everyone in Mesa County voted the same way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

It is always projection. There have been previous Republican voters fraud cases in the last election(s).

At least it's an easy alert for what problems to look for. If they're declaring "the other guys" are doing something, they're already doing it themselves.