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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Supporting someone currently committing genocide is an explicitly pro genocide stance.

I pray that you and your family are someday accorded the same mercy as you have for Gazans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm sure if Trump wins it will be of great comfort to the millions more Palestinians dying in the genocide that their deaths will be useful to your smug sense of superiority.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having a hard line of support for genocide should not be a high bar to clear. Look at yourself in the mirtor and say, "I vote for genociders".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

See, the difference between me and you is that I care about the people who are still alive, not just the ones who are dead. I'm not okay with letting millions of innocent people die just so I don't have to "support genocide". I'm sure your conscience is more important than their lives though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You explicitly support the continued genocide of Palestinians.

You are a white supremacist.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are explicitly pro more death.

You cannot make me sit idly by and do nothing while innocents die.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

See, the difference between me and you is that I care about the people who are still alive, not just the ones who are dead.

It takes a very special relationship with the truth to read what I said and think, "wow that person only cares about dead people".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So why won't you do anything for the people who are still alive, then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Are you high?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

Just because it sucks, doesn't mean it isn't true. The simple fact of the matter is that the statements "The Democrats are supporting a genocidal regime in Israel." and "If Trump becomes president Netanyahu will destroy Rafah and expand the violence into the West Bank." are not mutually exclusive statements. Taking a simple quick action to prevent one does not stop me from fighting the other. In fact, doing nothing to stop the worse case is supporting genocide. There will be more genocide if we all do nothing, and I have never seen any leftist actually suggest taking any action here on Lemmy. It's never about doing anything. It's always about what not to do. If that's all you've got, then you've already failed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are explicitly pro genocide.

You cannot make me support genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are explicitly pro more death.

You cannot make me sit idly by and do nothing while innocents die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That is what you are doing now.