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[Announcement] New set of communities made hidden (self.meta)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by UlrikHD to c/meta
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We have over a period of time gotten repeated reports of unmarked NSFW posts in certain communities. All of these communities share the same singular mod, who have shown indifference when content has been reported. As leaving NSFW posts unmarked is against our instance rules, we have moved to set the rule-breaking communities to hidden.

Those of you who subscribe to hidden communities will continue to see them as normal, for everyone else these communities will look empty and hidden from c/all.

The newly hidden communities are:

We would also like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that programming.dev's policy is to by default hide political communities, pornographic communities and communities hosting bot spam. Users seeking such content can subscribe to hidden communities so see them as normal.

Just recently we also went ahead and hid communities from lemmygrad due to the politics clause.

As always we encourage our local users to report content that break our instance rules. All content you report are seen by the admin team and helps inform the team of what's going on across the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I understand and approve of the decision.

But please don't perpetuate the idea that I don't take moderation seriusly.

A difference in sensibility between me and someone else, is not indifference on my part.

[–] UlrikHD 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can only report on what I've been told by those who have directly dealt with the reports, my apologies if parts of the phrasing are inaccurate/poorly made. I'll make a note that we should probably reach out to relevant moderators beforehand next time we make similar actions.

As for differing sensibilities, I'm not sure most people would classify this kind of content as safe to browse at work/in public.

Regardless, we are not here to make demands or argue on how other instances moderate their own content. This post is made mainly to keep our actions transparent to our local users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thank you for the aknowledgement.

When it comes to that second post, had I gotten a report on it, I would probably have flipped my decision not to mark it NSFW, as I have done on some posts in the past.

But I didnt get a report. Edit: though I went ahead and changed it now.

The others I could hang up as posters at work just fine.

On the subject of sensibilities differingI have images like that one, and "worse" in my wallpaper rotation both on my phone and PC. I even have some pieces depicting actual nudity in an artistic setting.

My city has public statues and art installations that do that. In fact kind of a lot of places do. Way too much of the world suffers what I consider weird hangups on this subject.

I get separating pornography from public display, but this isn't that.

While I respect people not wanting to see certain content (and their right to block it), I don't see what's so offensive about the human body, or the aesthetic appreciation for it that some us feel, to the point that even non-nudity that displays the wrong shapes has to be censored lest someone somewhwere take offence to the point of it causing genuine averse consequences.

Even then, lemmy doesn't have the kind of complex tagging system that would allow people to define what they don't want to see before they see it. I expressed in this thread that I don't want porn in my feed, but if I were to disable NSFW content on my profile, a lot of not-porn I do want to see would go with it.

How many people would miss my post if I err on the side of caution too much?

Would I flag it as "midly provocative" if that was an option to allow those who want to to filter it out? Sure. But we don't have proper tagging on lemmy. Not yet. And NSFW is synonymous with pornography for A LOT of people, which again, this isnt.

Hence why sopulis policies on blocking porn fit me so well. And why programming.dev should absolutely do the equivalent for whatever types of content you want enable your users to see.

I realise I'm at an extreme end of the matter, which is why I DO flag some things as NSFW even when I don't personally bat an eye.

But I also can't just flag everything, or mark the entire communties NSFW, because that IS used for porn, and will be what users expect and post if I did.

So I do my best to offend fewer people, but at the same time the content I want to share is often in a place where people simply don't agree on what it is and how to categorize it.

And while posting with an abundance of caution would be nice, it means suppressing discovery on all instances, instead of just some, and mostly being found by users browsing for something to masturbate to.