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Oh no, not just my build server, Microsofts build server... Everyones' Azure build server - (if you're building on windows)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

~~I didn't even know VS Code was something you could pay for.~~

~~Also, are you using Discord bots for work?~~

Edit: Nope and nope.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As is tradition with MS and their complicated naming policies Visual Studio is not VS Code.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Also, VS Code is mid, not even working correctly and definitely not OOB on Linux in my experience, and VS just does not support Linux at all. And is shit anyway.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

VS's built-in .NET debugger is top tier, though. Especially the ability to edit code while it is running.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Rider can do code replacement too and has worked much better in my experience

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It would be much better if it stopped missing the version of the code you are working on and locking while starting multithreaded code.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you want twenty minutes of rage-filled ranting, ask me about vscode-server sometime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

How much would that be in Libraries Of Congress if written down?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

No and no and no. Works fine even on arm64 Linux. And is not shit in the least.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I can only recommend ZED

EDIT: no love for ZED?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hmmm, the front page looks like they're trying to sell a LLM code generator with additional QOL to businesses, and not a developer focused IDE or extensible text editor.

Definitely not something that catches my interest as a developer. Though, I haven't tried it, so these are just initial impressions from reading their landing page.

Edit: also, why down vote the above? It appears perfectly relevant to the discussion. If you disagree, why not make a comment about it instead?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's really good and open source. I used sublime & atom before and it's pretty much the same experience.

Is it also because it's made for mac first?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hadn't actually noticed it was Mac first before you mentioned it, but no, if it works for Mac, then it likely also works for Linux (and that's what counts, right?).

Contrary to my previous statement, I've actually tried downloading Zed. The first thing I noticed was the "sign in" in the top right corner. Feels rather unsightly, but no biggie. It appears to redirect to GitHub authorization, after which it fails with a "OAuthCallback"-error. Might be my fault, can't remember if I've disabled or limited unnecessary functionality in GitHub.

The design feels slick and most options are hidden away or represented by only a small icon with tooltips. It appears that no advanced settings page exists, as nearly everything is handled in JSON (initially thought that a visual settings page must have been hidden away deep down somewhere, but that appears to be wrong).

Coop programming seems to be a big feature, but I'll skip that as it appears to need setup.

Also, the LLM part is not nearly as prominent as their front page makes it out to be, rather feels like an option than a prominent or forced feature, so that's really nice.

The included extensions (nice to have them as they're no given) appear to focus on themes and syntax, can't find any cross-development nor compilation related extensions which is just fine. Compilation is best handled in the terminal anyway.

Overall it feels pretty solid, definitely different from the first impressions of their page. Might be even better with more diverse extensions, though, I haven't looked at the internet for unlisted extensions, and I'm not sure how old the project is (the extensions might just not be made yet).

There's also no pop-ups, start pages with all kinds of featured content, nor settings or buttons that grab your attention away from your work (except the login button, perhaps. I would like to see what it looks like once logged in).

I'm probably missing most features as my GitHub integration fails, but I'm overall positively surprised.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It has an integrated Terminal, which works good - made my work with sass on the server a little easier.

Glad you're linking it. It never stopped to surprise me with it's simplicity and absence of forced features.

Also nightime coding friendly:

PS: When logged in - you just see your profile pic at the right top, but i still have to integrate a project - until now i'm nothing more than logged in. I Discovered ZED just a few weeks ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I still wonder why they decided to write their own UI framework from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Visual Studio and VS Code are two separate products, I'm afraid. Visual Studio is a .NET IDE and build tool, as opposed to VS Code which is essentially an extensible text editor.

Edit: also the screenshot looks like it might be from Slack?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The great thing about Slack is how easy it is to make automations. I guess this one just reads RSS feeds.

At my work we have automations notifying us about production errors for example.

[–] RonSijm 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's not a Discord bot, it's a Slack RSS App / RSS subscription.

Event Source: https://status.dev.azure.com/_event/543117809

It's pretty useful 'for work' because occasionally you'll get notifications when parts of infra might be down (like your build server)