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battery

I don't think that this is a conspiracy by phone manufacturers to force purchases of phone hardware.

• All kinds of devices use fixed batteries these days, not just smartphones. It's cheaper, lighter, makes the device stronger, avoids them having to deal with "User X bought a counterfeit battery that then caught fire" -- that's a real issue for lithium batteries, unlike traditional alkaline/NiMH-type removeable batteries. Virtually the only device class I can think of where removable lithium batteries are the norm is high-end flashlights -- anything on [email protected] probably supports removable 18650s or similar. I have gone out of my way to get a lot of devices that use AA batteries or maybe 18650s, but there are just tons of products, including in highly-competitive, low-barrier-to-entry industries like gamepads, where it'd be impossible to form a cartel to refuse to offer a device with removable batteries. And yet they've mostly moved to fixed batteries. There is no industry convention for removable, BMS-enabled, lithium batteries the way AA or the like were traditionally used in devices.

  If there were a cartel driving this against consumer wishes as a whole, you would have just smartphones doing the fixed battery thing, not the consumer electronics industry as a whole.

  If it were cartel-driven, I'd also expect to see, in a situation like that, manufacturers making hefty use of price discrimination -- like, think of how some laptop vendors charge a premium for devices with a lot of RAM when they have soldered RAM. But in the market today, the differences in battery size are minimal. Google makes a "large" version of the Pixel, and they barely bump the battery up, even with a slightly larger screen.

  Instead, it was associated with the shift across consumer electronics to non-removable batteries with the move to lithium batteries, which is what you'd expect if sketchy batteries were a problem.

• Phones in particular have a space and weight premium, so compared to a lot of devices that aren't held in your hand, using removable NiMH batteries or the like is more of an issue.

I was super stoked to find out my OnePlus Open has an IR blaster! I missed it on my old galaxy note 4. It is surprisingly convenient, and doubles as a fun way to mess with TVs in public spaces.

I can get the battery replaced on my phone for a fraction of the money it would cost me to buy a new phone. So I have to take it in to the shop for an hour. Big deal. I can do that once every few years. And I can still use wired headphones with my phone even though it doesn't have a headphone jack. Sheesh, I wonder how that works.

The biggest anti-consumer practice to make your device lifespan as short as possible is whatever software update practices the manufacturer has. Annual major versions increase hardware requirements - I can tell every day how my 5 year old phone is getting long in the tooth. Lack of long-term software support is another way to make sure the average user buys a new device well before the old device has reached end of life.