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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is an Italian latte really with cold milk?

I used to work in coffee in Seattle and around there a latte is also steamed milk. The difference between a latte and a cappuccino is the amount of foam to milk ratio.

Latte is mostly milk with a topping of foam. Cappuccino is half foam half milk (and some people like even more foam in their cappuccinos).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Those terms are an American invention. As for Italy

  • Latte = plain old milk. Can be cold or hot, it's milk
  • Caffelatte = probably the origin of the American "latte", literally means coffee and milk, usually made and home with cold or hot milk and moka coffee
  • Latte macchiato = big cup of milk, frothy on top, with a shot of espresso in it
  • Caffè macchiato = espresso with a shot of milk, can be frothy
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Certainly the origin of the American "latte" is the latte macchiato, because that's exactly what you receive if you order "a latte" in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, thanks for the info! What is moka coffee? Mocha here means a latte with chocolate basically. Sometimes with whipped cream instead of foam.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Coffee made with a Moka pot

What you call mocha should actually be called Mocaccino, although it's more similar to what we call Marocchino in Italy. They're both derived from the "Bicerin", a drink typical of Turin.

Marocchino is like a Cappuccino with powdered cocoa (mix the espresso and cocoa before pouring the milk).

Mocaccino is instead made up of three layers, a layer of melted chocolate, then a layer of espresso, then a layer of frothy milk.

Afaik they're not massively popular in Italy, but here in the north I see Marocchino more often than Mocaccino.

PS: if you want to pronounce them correctly, "chi" and "che" are pronounced "ki" and "ke", while "ci" and "ce" are pronounced "chi" and "che".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It sounds like an American mocha is most similar to the mocaccino, since we mostly use a thick chocolate sauce for the chocolate, not cocoa powder.

[–] kn0wmad1c 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was just trying to keep things simple, but you're right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oh got it. You got me very intrigued! 😄